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Title: [SOLVED] Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: KP on September 03, 2025, 05:31:43 PM
Hi, I'm new to Scribus - really loving the functionality but have a problem with images. I'm using a Mac laptop with Sequoia.

Because I want the text to wrap around my images, I've been edited the nodes (via the Shape edit menu). It all seemed to work perfectly. Then I noticed that whenever I save the file, close and later reopen it, the oulines of the shapes have moved leaving parts of the image inside hidden.

It's happening all the time and making Scribus un-useable for this current project :(

Please can anyone suggest any ways to stop this happening?
Thank you

Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: a.l.e on September 03, 2025, 07:32:01 PM
Would you mind sharing a .sla file that shows the issue?

You don't need to include the actual image, the empty image frame is enough...
Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: KP on September 03, 2025, 09:57:31 PM
Thank you, it would be great to know if there's a solution!

Here's an example of what's happening. The first image appears to be fine this time, the next two aren't as I left them.

Thanks again!
Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: AdmFubar on September 03, 2025, 10:55:56 PM
I think we will need a screen show showing how it looks before the save and then then a screenshot after a reopen.

What version of scribus are you using?

and to clarify, are the image frames moving? or the contents of the frame? or, are the edited nodes changing position?
Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: KP on September 04, 2025, 09:14:35 AM
It's Scribus 1.6.4

Here's 4 screenshots, showing two images before and after closing scribus.

It seems to enlarge the images. Sometimes it also enlarges the frame and moves nodes.

The images are PNG files with transparent backgrounds.

Thank you!

Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: a.l.e on September 04, 2025, 10:58:36 AM
Can you try if it also happens with the attached file?
Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: AdmFubar on September 04, 2025, 08:03:06 PM
Quote from: KP on September 04, 2025, 09:14:35 AMIt's Scribus 1.6.4

Here's 4 screenshots, showing two images before and after closing scribus.

It seems to enlarge the images. Sometimes it also enlarges the frame and moves nodes.

The images are PNG files with transparent backgrounds.

Thank you!


Yes the images are resizing for some reason. Is there any dpi information associated with the images? Where are the images from? are the they from a collection of clipart? or images that you are modifing?
Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: KP on September 04, 2025, 10:16:24 PM
I drew them to illustrate the story.They're saved at 300dpi.

I've converted some to jpgs to see if that would help, but the same thing happened.

Is anyone successfully using images, resizing them & editing nodes with Sequoia?

Thanks all.
Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: AdmFubar on September 04, 2025, 10:37:20 PM
Post an image here.. i want to try it.
Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: RodneyLee on September 05, 2025, 02:44:22 PM
sounds like you are editing the images after you close Scribus, then reopening the file with the newly saved image, which makes it no longer fit in the frame you started with
Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: utnik on September 05, 2025, 10:26:45 PM
hi kp

You shouldn't edit the frame itself to manage the text flow. (at least not if the size of the image is set to fit the frame size...) You should edit the contour line (and use it for the text flow).
see this bug report (https://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=16788) and my comment...

utnik
Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: AdmFubar on September 06, 2025, 04:48:42 AM
Quote from: utnik on September 05, 2025, 10:26:45 PMhi kp

You shouldn't edit the frame itself to manage the text flow. (at least not if the size of the image is set to fit the frame size...) You should edit the contour line (and use it for the text flow).
see this bug report (https://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=16788) and my comment...

utnik
Problem with that is the text will get lost on the image. He is limiting the frame shape and wanting the text to hug the shape frame.
Try this and see if it solves the issue for you. Draw a shape, a rectangle will work for this, edit it as you did for the image frame. Then convert the shape to image frame and add your image, and add text wrap to flow around the frame. save, exit scribus and reload and see if the size has changed

Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: utnik on September 06, 2025, 06:56:25 AM
Quote from: AdmFubar on September 06, 2025, 04:48:42 AMProblem with that is the text will get lost on the image. He is limiting the frame shape and wanting the text to hug the shape frame...

ok. in this case he should click on 'free scaling' in the 'image properties' before editing the shape. otherwise scribus has to adapt the size to the new frame shape...

utnik
Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: KP on September 06, 2025, 03:32:44 PM
Thanks all.
Clicking 'free scaling' in 'image properties' has helped, thanks utnik. But it's unpredictable - quite often Scribus forgets I've clicked 'free scaling' for an image. I have to check every image before closing the file.
It seems very unpredictable and really twitchy - both in terms of remembering adjustments & property choices and also scrolling / clicking.
Is this normal for Scribus?
Thanks
Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: utnik on September 06, 2025, 10:37:37 PM
hi kp

Quote from: KP on September 06, 2025, 03:32:44 PM...It seems very unpredictable and really twitchy - both in terms of remembering adjustments & property choices and also scrolling / clicking.
Is this normal for Scribus?
...
i never had an issue with scribus's remebering of my choices and adjustments in almost twenty years of using the software.
i rather suspect you not to remember a click... (i'm sorry, but it is as it is...)

utnik
Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: KP on September 07, 2025, 08:18:38 PM
If I'm missing out a click somewhere, or doing this in way that Scribus doesn't like, it would be great to know where.

For example, for inserting an image, resizing and adding nodes to allow text to be close to the drawing, I do this:
- draw image box
- get image file (jpg)
- click Content Properties and select 'Free Scaling'
- adjust size of image box
- edit nodes so text will flow around the image as required
- click ok
- click Content Properties.... and sometimes Free Scaling is still checked and sometimes it isn't.

Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: a.l.e on September 07, 2025, 10:05:10 PM
Editing the nodes of the images box is needed if you want to hide parts of the images.

If you want the text to flow around it, you'd better -- as already other people tried to tell you -- edit the contour path.

But I've tried your workflow, step by step, and I could not get the Free Scaling setting to "uncheck" (being a radio button it can not really uncheck, but it would switch to "To Frame Size"... but this does not happen either).

And, in the last several years, I don't think that I've heard of images moving around in the frames by them selves...
Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: KP on September 08, 2025, 03:09:45 PM
I've tried editing the contour paths and selected text flow around contour path.... it often results in bits of the text being hidden as shown below. (first pic is in preview mode to make it easier to see)

Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: utnik on September 08, 2025, 09:08:26 PM
yes, that's what i didn't think of in my first answer. but admfubar told me and later we tried to tell you how to deal with it.
(just reread the posts #12 and #16...)

utnik
Title: Re: Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: KP on September 09, 2025, 08:51:11 AM
Thank you. I'll give it a go.
Title: Re: [SOLVED] Newbie - images keep moving, leaving parts missing!?
Post by: Nermander on September 09, 2025, 04:40:23 PM
Quote from: KP on September 08, 2025, 03:09:45 PMI've tried editing the contour paths and selected text flow around contour path.... it often results in bits of the text being hidden as shown below. (first pic is in preview mode to make it easier to see)

Isn't that just because the image does not have transparency? And is above the text? (I don't remember if flow around frame requires the frame to be below or above the text.)