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#51
PDF Generation / Re: Prepress: any tips for aut...
Last post by mperonen - November 28, 2024, 05:08:32 PMQuote from: Nermander on November 28, 2024, 04:51:50 PMI just noticed the profile was called GWG 2015, so I googled it and that turns out to be a PDF specification.
https://gwg.org/technical-specifications/gwg-2015-specifications/
They seem to want your e-mail for downloading it though... And want to send marketing.
I also noticed that and I was able to download that PDF without giving any info, not sure if my browser blocked those
Will try read through that for sure.
#52
PDF Generation / Re: Prepress: any tips for aut...
Last post by Nermander - November 28, 2024, 04:51:50 PMI just noticed the profile was called GWG 2015, so I googled it and that turns out to be a PDF specification.
https://gwg.org/technical-specifications/gwg-2015-specifications/
They seem to want your e-mail for downloading it though... And want to send marketing.
https://gwg.org/technical-specifications/gwg-2015-specifications/
They seem to want your e-mail for downloading it though... And want to send marketing.
#53
PDF Generation / Re: Prepress: any tips for aut...
Last post by a.l.e - November 28, 2024, 04:44:46 PMYou can try to tell them that you're in touch with the developers of Scribus, and that they are interested in finding out what the issues were.
Sadly, I have to also to warn you, that Scribus has the "policy" to not care about other programs not correctly processing PDF files (in the contrary to Adobe, that tends to work around issues that other software down the chain might have...).
One example is: you seem to be producing a PDF X/4 which, as far as I can read in Wikipedia, allows RGB colors as long as they are color managed... But, if I understand the short error message correctly, the printer's software seems to complain about RGB colors being in the PDF.
And, as Nermander says, Scribus will force to activate the color management, if you export to PDF X/4.
(but the issue might be somewhere else: we don't see the details!)
Finally, a general notice about the fonts you're using: they don't seem to be good quality fonts, meant for print (as an example, Roboto is clearly a UI font...).
Personally, I believe that Scribus should better take care of real word issues and limitations, but I also understand that a small team might not want to fix the errors bigger and well payed teams are doing elsewhere...
(My rational: creating PDFs that the printers do like, might have helped in improving the acceptance of Scribus among many users and print shops! ... and maybe attracted some more developers...)
(But I also understand the team's rational: The only important thing is that the PDF created by Scribus must be correct! Otherwise nobody will trust our "small" software)
Sadly, I have to also to warn you, that Scribus has the "policy" to not care about other programs not correctly processing PDF files (in the contrary to Adobe, that tends to work around issues that other software down the chain might have...).
One example is: you seem to be producing a PDF X/4 which, as far as I can read in Wikipedia, allows RGB colors as long as they are color managed... But, if I understand the short error message correctly, the printer's software seems to complain about RGB colors being in the PDF.
And, as Nermander says, Scribus will force to activate the color management, if you export to PDF X/4.
(but the issue might be somewhere else: we don't see the details!)
Finally, a general notice about the fonts you're using: they don't seem to be good quality fonts, meant for print (as an example, Roboto is clearly a UI font...).
Personally, I believe that Scribus should better take care of real word issues and limitations, but I also understand that a small team might not want to fix the errors bigger and well payed teams are doing elsewhere...
(My rational: creating PDFs that the printers do like, might have helped in improving the acceptance of Scribus among many users and print shops! ... and maybe attracted some more developers...)
(But I also understand the team's rational: The only important thing is that the PDF created by Scribus must be correct! Otherwise nobody will trust our "small" software)
#54
PDF Generation / Re: Prepress: any tips for aut...
Last post by Nermander - November 28, 2024, 04:29:19 PMThe most common answer in a case like this usually is: Look for another printer.
But the first error message indicates they are looking for a PDF/X-4. Did you export to PDF/X-4? Did you do a preflight check in Scribus for PDF/X-4?
(PDF/X-4 will only be selectable for export when you have color management turned on.)
But the first error message indicates they are looking for a PDF/X-4. Did you export to PDF/X-4? Did you do a preflight check in Scribus for PDF/X-4?
(PDF/X-4 will only be selectable for export when you have color management turned on.)
#55
PDF Generation / Re: Prepress: any tips for aut...
Last post by mperonen - November 28, 2024, 12:34:07 PMI tried asking, but they had an annoying "Scribus is not good for this kind of stuff" attitude, and I also read that they will actually bill me for asking further information (taking their work time)...large company, silly rules.
I did some digging and reading, and it seems those "Custom" encoding fonts might be an issue here?
I do know the fonts were the biggest problem here, since they did something to fix the pages on their end and they printed out just fine.
I used my logical thinking on the "Number of pages is more than 1" error and that might simply be because they are using "Newspaper Ads" profile for the check and Ads usually are just one page-PDF anyway, so it's more of a warning that the PDF has more pages.
I did some digging and reading, and it seems those "Custom" encoding fonts might be an issue here?
I do know the fonts were the biggest problem here, since they did something to fix the pages on their end and they printed out just fine.
I used my logical thinking on the "Number of pages is more than 1" error and that might simply be because they are using "Newspaper Ads" profile for the check and Ads usually are just one page-PDF anyway, so it's more of a warning that the PDF has more pages.
#56
PDF Generation / Re: Prepress: any tips for aut...
Last post by a.l.e - November 28, 2024, 12:18:47 PMthanks for the information!
sadly, having the information hidden behind all those ▶ is necessary for most of the issues.
would it possible to ask the printshop about those details?
sadly, having the information hidden behind all those ▶ is necessary for most of the issues.
would it possible to ask the printshop about those details?
#57
PDF Generation / Re: Prepress: any tips for aut...
Last post by mperonen - November 28, 2024, 12:08:53 PMThank you for your response.
Here is a screenshot of the errors that they sent me
(You may ignore the DeviceRGB error, that was my bad and I figured it out myself):
Here is pdffonts command output on the pdf:
name type encoding emb sub uni object ID
------------------------------------ ----------------- ---------------- --- --- --- ---------
Caladea-BoldItalic TrueType Custom yes no no 19 0
Caladea-BoldItalic TrueType Custom yes no yes 9 0
Caladea-BoldItalic TrueType Custom yes no yes 13 0
Caladea-BoldItalic TrueType Custom yes no yes 17 0
JMXFWM+DejaVuSans-Bold CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 24 0
EMTWHA+RobotoCondensed-Bold CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 161 0
OJAJKL+RobotoCondensed-Medium CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 166 0
BAKUQH+RobotoCondensed-Regular CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 171 0
ZJRXIX+RobotoCondensed-SemiBoldItalic CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 176 0
JUWHOW+DejaVuSans CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 29 0
VAYWSP+DejaVuSansCondensed-Bold CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 34 0
GentiumBasic-Bold TrueType Custom yes no no 54 0
GentiumBasic-Bold TrueType Custom yes no yes 40 0
GentiumBasic-Bold TrueType Custom yes no yes 44 0
GentiumBasic-Bold TrueType Custom yes no yes 48 0
GentiumBasic-Bold TrueType Custom yes no yes 52 0
GentiumBasic-BoldItalic TrueType Custom yes no no 74 0
GentiumBasic-BoldItalic TrueType Custom yes no yes 60 0
GentiumBasic-BoldItalic TrueType Custom yes no yes 64 0
GentiumBasic-BoldItalic TrueType Custom yes no yes 68 0
GentiumBasic-BoldItalic TrueType Custom yes no yes 72 0
Gentium-Italic TrueType Custom yes no no 110 0
Gentium-Italic TrueType Custom yes no yes 80 0
Gentium-Italic TrueType Custom yes no yes 84 0
Gentium-Italic TrueType Custom yes no yes 88 0
Gentium-Italic TrueType Custom yes no yes 92 0
Gentium-Italic TrueType Custom yes no yes 96 0
Gentium-Italic TrueType Custom yes no yes 100 0
Gentium-Italic TrueType Custom yes no yes 104 0
Gentium-Italic TrueType Custom yes no yes 108 0
Gentium TrueType Custom yes no no 146 0
Gentium TrueType Custom yes no yes 116 0
Gentium TrueType Custom yes no yes 120 0
Gentium TrueType Custom yes no yes 124 0
Gentium TrueType Custom yes no yes 128 0
Gentium TrueType Custom yes no yes 132 0
Gentium TrueType Custom yes no yes 136 0
Gentium TrueType Custom yes no yes 140 0
Gentium TrueType Custom yes no yes 144 0
HFXHVF+Helvetica-Bold CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 151 0
JOWYOZ+RobotoCondensed-Black CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 156 0
Here is a screenshot of the errors that they sent me
(You may ignore the DeviceRGB error, that was my bad and I figured it out myself):
Here is pdffonts command output on the pdf:
name type encoding emb sub uni object ID
------------------------------------ ----------------- ---------------- --- --- --- ---------
Caladea-BoldItalic TrueType Custom yes no no 19 0
Caladea-BoldItalic TrueType Custom yes no yes 9 0
Caladea-BoldItalic TrueType Custom yes no yes 13 0
Caladea-BoldItalic TrueType Custom yes no yes 17 0
JMXFWM+DejaVuSans-Bold CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 24 0
EMTWHA+RobotoCondensed-Bold CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 161 0
OJAJKL+RobotoCondensed-Medium CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 166 0
BAKUQH+RobotoCondensed-Regular CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 171 0
ZJRXIX+RobotoCondensed-SemiBoldItalic CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 176 0
JUWHOW+DejaVuSans CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 29 0
VAYWSP+DejaVuSansCondensed-Bold CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 34 0
GentiumBasic-Bold TrueType Custom yes no no 54 0
GentiumBasic-Bold TrueType Custom yes no yes 40 0
GentiumBasic-Bold TrueType Custom yes no yes 44 0
GentiumBasic-Bold TrueType Custom yes no yes 48 0
GentiumBasic-Bold TrueType Custom yes no yes 52 0
GentiumBasic-BoldItalic TrueType Custom yes no no 74 0
GentiumBasic-BoldItalic TrueType Custom yes no yes 60 0
GentiumBasic-BoldItalic TrueType Custom yes no yes 64 0
GentiumBasic-BoldItalic TrueType Custom yes no yes 68 0
GentiumBasic-BoldItalic TrueType Custom yes no yes 72 0
Gentium-Italic TrueType Custom yes no no 110 0
Gentium-Italic TrueType Custom yes no yes 80 0
Gentium-Italic TrueType Custom yes no yes 84 0
Gentium-Italic TrueType Custom yes no yes 88 0
Gentium-Italic TrueType Custom yes no yes 92 0
Gentium-Italic TrueType Custom yes no yes 96 0
Gentium-Italic TrueType Custom yes no yes 100 0
Gentium-Italic TrueType Custom yes no yes 104 0
Gentium-Italic TrueType Custom yes no yes 108 0
Gentium TrueType Custom yes no no 146 0
Gentium TrueType Custom yes no yes 116 0
Gentium TrueType Custom yes no yes 120 0
Gentium TrueType Custom yes no yes 124 0
Gentium TrueType Custom yes no yes 128 0
Gentium TrueType Custom yes no yes 132 0
Gentium TrueType Custom yes no yes 136 0
Gentium TrueType Custom yes no yes 140 0
Gentium TrueType Custom yes no yes 144 0
HFXHVF+Helvetica-Bold CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 151 0
JOWYOZ+RobotoCondensed-Black CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 156 0
#58
PDF Generation / Re: Prepress: any tips for aut...
Last post by Nermander - November 28, 2024, 11:55:47 AMMaybe also ask the printer for the specifications they need the PDF to comply with?
While some of the errors may be due to broken fonts, I would suspect that it is rather about limitations of their software.
What tool are they using to check the PDF?
While some of the errors may be due to broken fonts, I would suspect that it is rather about limitations of their software.
What tool are they using to check the PDF?
#59
PDF Generation / Re: Prepress: any tips for aut...
Last post by a.l.e - November 28, 2024, 11:09:01 AMcan you please post some details about the fonts you have been using?
and the exact error messages might also help.
if you don't want to share those information in public, you can open a "private" ticket in the bug tracker: https://busg.scribus.net
and the exact error messages might also help.
if you don't want to share those information in public, you can open a "private" ticket in the bug tracker: https://busg.scribus.net
#60
Free discussion / Re: Book Layout
Last post by utnik - November 28, 2024, 10:45:23 AMhi ashokdaga
(if you use 'automatic text frames', they will always be created to the margins.)
utnik
Quote from: ashokdaga on June 12, 2020, 08:38:00 AMHello Everyone,i would recommend 1.6.2 – but this won't solve your problem...
I am new here; using Scribus 1.4.8...
Quote...I wanted to insert 230 more pages. However when I do that my text frames go and snap to top margin even though 'snap to margin' is not selected.there is no 'snap to margin'. the margins are treated as guides. if 'snap to guides' is checked, items will snap to the margins as well as to your separate guide 0.2" below the top margin.
(if you use 'automatic text frames', they will always be created to the margins.)
utnik