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Re: spot color images becomes CMYK
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2014, 01:54:19 pm »
That would mean that the code would effectively need disable all non-compatible Image Effects when the user selects a spot color for colorize. Then the user must somehow be informed of this, because otherwise this forum and the mailing list will be flooded with "Why are the Image Effects disabled??"-questions.

This is not a problem, "Why are the Image Effects disabled??" it's possible to put any explanation in Scribus Help.
Spot colors don't get in pdf, if there are in bitmaps - it is real problem.
I don't know why spot colors are available in bitmaps effect, if it works only inside Scribus. This is misleading, and dangerous. If any unaware user prepare own pdf file with only one spot color, next Scribus does 4 colors cmyk in pdf, and next print house give a big bill on 4 colors.
So I vote to add full functionality for spot colors, so in pdf, eps too.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2014, 02:08:39 pm by leaf »

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Re: spot color images becomes CMYK
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2014, 01:03:03 am »
My suggestion is not to use the Image Effects-->Colorize, I see your point for confusion.  I would make it a separate menu item of 'Apply Spot Color' or such.

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Re: spot color images becomes CMYK
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2014, 09:13:02 am »
So I vote to add full functionality for spot colors, so in pdf, eps too.

Scribus will most likely get that. The only question is when. It might come in the next version or it might take a few years. It all depends on how much spare time the developers have to work on Scribus and what features they will prioritize.

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Re: spot color images becomes CMYK
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2014, 11:30:10 pm »

Thanks for the trick with photoshop-->pdf placement, I will have to give that a try sometime in the next week or so, but my ultimate goal is to use only FOSS software.

Is free solution which works similarly. Needed 3 programs: Scribus, Notepad++, Ghostscript
1. place in Scribus Your photo
2. publish it file as pdf in greyscale mode
3. open your pdf file in notepad++
4 replace 7 0 obj
<<  >>
endobj and paste
7 0 obj
[/Separation/PANTONE#203295#20C/DeviceCMYK<</C0[0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0]/C1[1.0 0.0 0.529999 0.210007]/Domain[0 1]/FunctionType 2/N 1.0/Range[0.0 1.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 1.0]>>]

*explanation C1 shows cmyk values to display for example C1[1.0 0.05 0.5 0.0] it is C=100 M=5 Y=50 K=0
PANTONE#203295#20C = PANTONE 3295 C

5. add in 10 0 obj
/ColorSpace 7 0 R
/Decode[1.0 0.0]

/ColorSpace /DeviceGray - delete

You should have
10 0 obj
<<
/Type /XObject
/Subtype /Image
/Width 472
/Height 544
/BitsPerComponent 8
/Length 11 0 R
/Filter /DCTDecode
/ColorSpace 7 0 R
/Decode[1.0 0.0]
>>
endobj


6. save file
7. convert your pdf in pdf in ghostscript (cleans the file = Repair XREF table, in new pdf there are more characters)
Sometimes You can try pdftk and in terminal paste pdftk broken.pdf output fixed.pdf

After this way You have pdf file similar as from photoshop.

I attach sample file.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2014, 09:43:17 pm by leaf »

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Re: spot color images becomes CMYK
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2014, 12:24:09 am »
I tested solution with edit pdf in notepad++ etc
and I attach sample file, results it works ok, monotone, dutone (combination 2 spot colors, or one spot + black)

For combination colors I use multiply mode in scribus, but is possible to use overprint too.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2014, 09:45:04 pm by leaf »

 

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