Embed/subset fonts: "Embed/subset all" has to be clicked?

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kenerling

Hi all,

A rapid, silly question but possibly useful for other beginners like me:

Setting: Scribus 1.6.2 on Windows 10 Home.

Function in question: File > Export > Save as pdf... > Fonts > Embedding mode > Embed or subset.

⇒ Am I correct that just choosing "Embed or subset" in the dropdown menu does not actually embed and subset the fonts? To actually embed or subset them, one has to click the "Embed all" and/or "Subset all" buttons underneath?

I'm asking because I just got a test photobook back from Blurb, and everything in Garamond or Bell MT font did not print (but things in Arial did). Blurb warns to embed the fonts, especially with Scribus, which I thought I had done by choosing "Embed or subset" in the dropdown menu, but I know I did not click the "Embed all" and "Subset all" buttons.

Bref, verifying that this was indeed user error on my part, and not a problem with Blurb.

Thanks and cheers!

kenerling

While waiting for a response, I have been experimenting with this, and I think I can at least somewhat answer my own question.

Do please be sure to correct me if I'm wrong!

Quote from: kenerling on February 15, 2025, 10:32:43 AM⇒ Am I correct that just choosing "Embed or subset" in the dropdown menu does not actually embed and subset the fonts?

I think I was incorrect about that.

Just choosing "Embed or subset" in the dropdown menu does embed the fonts as they are listed by default in the "Fonts to embed" and "Fonts to subset" boxes.

So what do the "Embed all" and "Subset all" buttons do?

Clicking the "Embed all" button will move all fonts able to be embedded to the "Fonts to embed" box, and inversely, clicking the "Subset all" button will move all fonts able to be subsetted to the "Fonts to subset" box.

I think the "able to be" in the preceding paragraph is important. In my limited testing, it appears that not all fonts can be embedded; I noticed that after clicking "Embed all", some fonts remain nonetheless in the "Fonts to subset" box. However, again in my limited testing, all fonts do appear to be subsettable; clicking "subset all" has, for me and to date, always moved all fonts to the "Fonts to subset" box. But perhaps I just haven't stumbled upon a non-subsettable font yet.(?)

Anyhoo, hope that helps my fellow beginners and cheers.