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Title: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: Wena on September 01, 2011, 09:22:15 pm
Is there any way I can produce PDF X/1-a:2001 in scribus?

I know that there are other ways of doing so and that Scribus 1.5 will have it, but several members of this forum must have ways to do so.

Wena
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: utnik on September 02, 2011, 12:26:45 am
hi wena

unfortunately, the only way to generate pdf/x-1a with scribus is with the version 1.5 – but you can install 1.4 and 1.5 parallel and run scribus1.5 only for the final pdf/x-1a generation.

utnik
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: Wena on September 02, 2011, 04:36:18 pm
Thanks, you are indeed a busy person.

 Where do I get a Scribus 1.5?

Every where I have looked suggest it is not available to date.

Have we a download falsity tor it?

Then do I run the text in the Sribus 1.4 format or a PDF.

Wena.
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: utnik on September 02, 2011, 04:58:01 pm
hi wena

you can find daily 1.5 packages for ubuntu at http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Download (http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Download).
for all other operating systems you have to compile from the source code (wich you will find under the same link…)
if your printshop has scribus (some do – most don't…), perhaps they may generate the pdf for you.

Then do I run the text in the Sribus 1.4 format or a PDF.

i would write the text in a text editor like libO writer, ms word or something similar, then import it into scribus. (with libre office or open office all the formating will be imported as well…)

utnik
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: Wena on September 02, 2011, 09:32:12 pm
utnik, Thank you for your help.

Taking you address to get the source code and CMake to compile on my Windows XP computer , which I did. The only reference I found there was this link “svn://scribus.net/trunk/Scribus - Scribus 1.5.0svn (trunk)”. But no download link.

Following that there was another link http://scribus.net/websvn/listing.php?repname=Scribus  Their was a list there but no download for Scribus 1.5. only a long list of developments.

Have I miss understood your instructions.

Has anyone got a direct link to v 1.5  download?

Wena
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: utnik on September 04, 2011, 02:34:20 pm
hello wena

i don't think i can help you – i'm not really familiar with ms windows…

…there was this link “svn://scribus.net/trunk/Scribus - Scribus 1.5.0svn (trunk)”…
…but no download for Scribus 1.5. only a long list of developments.
…this long list are the files you need to compile the program. the download of the whole tree of files starts when you put:   svn co svn://scribus.net/trunk/Scribus yourUnstableScribusdirectory   into a command-line interface (maybe subversion is required for this…)
after you have the files on your hd, i have no idea how to compile it for your system – you will need infos from someone who knows the windows platform…

utnik
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: Nermander on September 04, 2011, 07:45:31 pm
The info is probably in a file called BUILDING among the files downloaded from svn...
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: Wena on September 05, 2011, 02:17:01 pm
I have now set up an  ubuntu on a computer and have taken the advice of this thread to get Scribus v 1.5 from http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Download. But there was no download function. Only a list. Now  utnik am I on your expertise line.

Wena
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: utnik on September 05, 2011, 03:03:30 pm
hello wena

the link to the archive is svn://scribus.net/trunk/Scribus (http://svn://scribus.net/trunk/Scribus) but the best way to download the whole bunch of files is to put:   svn co svn://scribus.net/trunk/Scribus yourUnstableScribusdirectory   into a command-line interface – as i wrote before…

but for ubuntu there are packages under https://launchpad.net/~scribus/+archive/ppa (https://launchpad.net/~scribus/+archive/ppa). there you should find a build for your linux version (to be installed with ubuntu software center).

utnik
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: Wena on September 05, 2011, 09:06:50 pm
None of the above address gives a download link for Scribus 1.5 for my Ubunto computer or my Windows XP computer.

utnik there must be something out of place? I have even registered with "Lanchpad" to see if that will help but NO.

I am advised to get Scribus v 1.5. I have surcharged the net for it with no results, why is that?

Wena
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: utnik on September 05, 2011, 09:57:51 pm
hello wena

i just tried to install the newest build on my ubuntu system – and it worked…

first you add   deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/scribus/ppa/ubuntu natty main   as a source to your ubuntu software center (for me it was 'natty'. if you have the newest ubuntu build, it's the same – otherwise insert 'maverick' or 'lucid'…)
after that, the ubuntu software center will find 'scribus(trunk)' as a possible application to install.
install it…

for me, this procedure worked – i hope it's the same for you…

utnik

edith: don't press the link, copy all from 'deb' to 'main'…
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: MKG on September 05, 2011, 11:17:29 pm
Hi All ...

The Ubuntu Software Centre comes with a link to Scribus already prepared. If you've just installed Ubuntu, wena, open the Software Centre, click on Graphics and then on Publishing. You'll find two options - one for stable Scribus and one for Scribus NG. The last one is the one you're looking for. Just click on Scribus NG, then on the install button and everything is done automatically for you.

Hope that helps ...
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: Wena on September 06, 2011, 12:09:04 am
Thanks, all of  you, I think it has worked, at least it is coming to the end of the download. It was the Lucid one.

We will see.

Wena
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: utnik on September 06, 2011, 01:43:34 am
…Just click on Scribus NG, then on the install button and everything is done automatically for you.
unfortunately this is not what wena needs – the stable one is 1.3.3.14 and ng is 1.4.0rc-something. but for pdf/x-1a she needs 1.5.

i hope, she has it already.

utnik
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: Wena on September 06, 2011, 01:27:00 pm
Thank you utnik I had been able to get Scribus 1.5 last night. I am a green horn using ubuntu and setting things up in it. Fortunately for me I have a lodger in my house who uses ubuntu and he took all the stress out of it.

I played about for 2 hours and not had a crash! so fare it looks great but now comes the steep learning curb!!!

Any tutorials, videos are best for me?

May be a new thread on this matter may help mi and others as developments of it take place.

Wena
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: utnik on September 06, 2011, 01:45:09 pm
hi wena

so, it finally worked – congratulations!

Any tutorials, videos are best for me?

as i'm german speaking, i learned the basics from this german pdf manual: (server.cbs-heidelberg.de/~ColbertD/1bk1/DTP/Scribus_kompakt.pdf (http://server.cbs-heidelberg.de/~ColbertD/1bk1/DTP/Scribus_kompakt.pdf)).

for you i recommend to take a look at this: http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Scribus_Video_Tutorials#Getting_Started_with_Scribus (http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Scribus_Video_Tutorials#Getting_Started_with_Scribus) or to ask google.
for specific questions the scribus forum will still be an option…

utnik
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: MKG on September 07, 2011, 12:03:45 am
…Just click on Scribus NG, then on the install button and everything is done automatically for you.
unfortunately this is not what wena needs – the stable one is 1.3.3.14 and ng is 1.4.0rc-something. but for pdf/x-1a she needs 1.5.

i hope, she has it already.

utnik

Quite right, utnik - I thought mine was 1.5 but, having checked again, it's 1.4. Sorry if I misled. But happy wena finally got what she needed.
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: Wena on September 07, 2011, 03:31:02 pm
Thank  you two, the word NEED comes out clear in both of your posts. I would not have gone to all the trouble to set up an other computer if if wasn't for the NEED.

I really have to much work on my hands to volunteer have to learn a new program.

Now having worked a little with 1.5., I am beginning to feel comfortable with it, don't forget I am a beginner with   Scribus. My next big step is producing book cover in PDF X/1-a:2001, so fare I have not seen any instructions to help me over that one.

Wena
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: utnik on September 08, 2011, 11:18:17 pm
hi wena

My next big step is producing book cover in PDF X/1-a:2001, so fare I have not seen any instructions to help me over that one.

what instructions do you need?
your print shop will mention the required bleed- and safety areas as well as the icc-profiles, and for the design take a look at books in a library…

utnik
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: Wena on September 09, 2011, 02:03:42 pm
The printing company have informed me that my files need to be in PDF X/1-a:2001 and I am tolled that Scribus v1. 5. can produce such a fail.  That is the information I need.

I do understand that v1.5 is rather new, but it is there some where.

Wena
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: utnik on September 12, 2011, 05:16:28 pm
hello wena

i thought, you have a running scribus 1.5 on your ubuntu system…
now you should adjust the preferencies:
take a look at all other preferencies – most of them should be clear…

utnik
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: Wena on September 12, 2011, 05:35:15 pm
Thank you utnik, I do have the scribus 1.5 ruining and I think it's  great. I am almost persuaded to sue it all the time but I know that is not safe at present.

The information you have just given me is the one I need, I am most grateful to you.

Wena   
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: utnik on September 12, 2011, 06:54:02 pm
hi wena

i know, this is a real development version (i don't really know how stable it is…), so i recommend to work in scribus 1.4.0rc5 and use the version 1.5 only to generate the final print-pdf.

utnik
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: Wena on September 12, 2011, 10:20:32 pm
Thank you utnik, I will be a good girl and do as I am told!!!

V1.4 is on my MS computer and 1.5 is on my Linux computer, however I am working on a caddy so everything is portable,
 
Wena
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: utnik on September 12, 2011, 11:20:49 pm
you can install 1.4.0rc5 parallel to 1.5 on your ubuntu machine.
otherwise you have to be careful about your fonts – don't use fonts, that aren't installed on the ubuntu or you will run into problems…

utnik
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: a.l.e on September 13, 2011, 11:00:26 am
@wena: it's not adivsable for people who don't follow the scribus development to use scribus 1.5 for daily work...

but you can use it in a post production step, as an example for for creating a pdf X/1-a file. just take care not to save your .sla while working with 1.5!

1.5 is mostly stable but there are some limits (most of all: the undo for text has been developed for 1.4 after branching out 1.5 and has not been ported yet to 1.5) and its stability may depend on the latest commit for a new feature.

@utnik: why shouldn't one use fonts which are not installed system wide? just add them in scribus and don't forget to include them into the pdf! ... or am i missing something?

ciao
a.l.e
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: Wena on September 13, 2011, 01:47:42 pm
Thank you, advice is now coming thick and fast, my learning curve is steep and my client is waiting to see her book, but she can wait while I learn.

I get the  blame if her book is a mess!!!

Wena
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: utnik on September 13, 2011, 10:00:23 pm
hello a.l.e

@utnik: why shouldn't one use fonts which are not installed system wide? just add them in scribus and don't forget to include them into the pdf! ... or am i missing something?

i wrote this because wena had scribus 1.4.0rc5 on a windows computer and 1.5 on another computer with ubuntu…

utnik
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: Wena on September 13, 2011, 11:00:26 pm
In the next day or two I will attempt to put the book cover together, that has to have the graphics in  PDF X/1-a:2001.

I am rather nerves of the whole thing. At the same time I will need to have the colors correct.

 Wena
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: aa_gangchen on September 18, 2011, 06:00:15 am
I have figured out a way to do 99% of the work in Scribus, and then for teh remaining 1%, you can go to FedEx/ Kinko store to rent a computer for about 5 or 10 minutes at 0.30USD per minutes (that is a total of 1.5 USD to 3 USD) to easily convert the file to PDF X/1-a:2001 format.

No special technical knowledge is necessary.

See detailed discussion in my book, Using FREE Scribus Software to Create Professional Presentations: Book Covers, Magazine Covers, Graphic Designs, Posters, Newsletters, Renderings, and More (Full Color Edition)

ISBN: 9780984374151   

See the following link:

http://www.amazon.com/Scribus-Software-Create-Professional-Presentations/dp/0984374159%3FSubscriptionId%3D1QZMGW0RRJC2PX87HDR2%26tag%3Dsalranexp-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D0984374159
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: Wena on September 18, 2011, 12:07:05 pm
Which version of Scribus dose your book cover?

I am on v 1.4 and v 1.5.

Wena
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: aa_gangchen on September 20, 2011, 05:40:28 pm
Our book is based on Scribus v 1.3.6, and I have both Scribus v 1.3.6 and Scribus v 1.4.

Everything in the book works for both  Scribus v 1.3.6 and Scribus v 1.4.

Most if not all of it applies to Scribus v 1.5 also.

You can learn how to design book cover by just looking through the color screenshots in our book. We use our book as an operation manual in our office also. Our goal is to make Scribus as easy to use as a telephone.

Gang Chen, Author, AIA, LEED AP BD+C




Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: aa_gangchen on September 21, 2011, 02:07:36 am
Wena,
I am posting my response to your question here because others may have the same question:

Our book, “Using FREE Scribus Software to Create Professional Presentations,” is available on bn.com and all of Amazon sites (Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk, Amazon.fr, Amazon.de, Amazon.co.jp, Amazon.au, and Amazon.es), and other major online book sellers. You can pick the site in your country.

Full Title:
Using FREE Scribus Software to Create Professional Presentations: Book Covers, Magazine Covers, Graphic Designs, Posters, Newsletters, Renderings, and More (Full Color Edition)
ISBN: 9780984374151  

Here is a link to the book on Amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/Scribus-Software-Create-Professional-Presentations/dp/0984374159%3FSubscriptionId%3D1QZMGW0RRJC2PX87HDR2%26tag%3Dsalranexp-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D0984374159#_

See all our published books at:
http://www.amazon.com/Gang-Chen/e/B001JS00RK/
http://GreenExamEducation.com/
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: utnik on September 21, 2011, 02:20:15 am
this thread http://forums.scribus.net/index.php/topic,176.msg676.html#msg676 (http://forums.scribus.net/index.php/topic,176.msg676.html#msg676) will give you an impression of chen and his book…

utnik
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: Wena on September 21, 2011, 01:36:03 pm
Thank you utnik, I have had a look as per your advice.

Wena
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: Wena on September 21, 2011, 09:53:59 pm
Thank you aa_gangchen, I now have a copy of the book.

Wena
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: aa_gangchen on September 21, 2011, 11:40:07 pm
Thank you!
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: Wena on September 22, 2011, 12:43:47 am
aa_gangchen, everything connected with the book I am working on is different from the example in your book, it will be an A5.

I wonder if any one on the forum has an A5 book template cover that I could have a go with before doing a real one?

Wena
Title: Re: PDF X/1-a:2001
Post by: utnik on September 22, 2011, 11:56:18 am
hello wena

of course most of the books are different from the examples in a manual. what chen tells you, is how to deal with the specifications given by your printer.
first you have to know the dimensions of your front- and back cover and the spine width (which depends on the number of pages and the paper whight). with this you have the cover size (2 x cover width + spine width / cover hight).
then you can add the bleed area (given by the printer).
for the safety margins i don't add guides, because i give more room for that anyway…

you have to make your own cover. but you can follow the steps in chens book – so you won't miss something essential…

utnik