I am creating a double sided document for a book. I have the first page set up as a right side page under page properties but it ends up on the left side in the PDF created by Scribus. I have tried inserting a page but that causes the text in the following pages to be offset out of the page margins for some strange reason.
I can provide more details if someone is willing to help
Thanks, Jim
i'm not aware that there might be a problem there...
can you provide a sample .sla and a .pdf generated from it that shows the issue?
ciao
a.l.e
Thanks for replying. Lets start with two screenshots, the first is of the top of my .sla file which shows the first page on the right at top. The second is the resulting PDF.
I have the top page which is page 1 set as a normal right page and as you can see it ends up as the first page on the left. The book printer has told me that the first page has to be on the right and of course that is the way it must be or the content is jumbled
Could it be related to page numbering? i am a real newbie at this so obviously I am not doing it correctly
Thanks and please let me know if you still need to see the .sla file
Jim
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yes, please share a .sla and a .pdf that show the issue.
thanks
a.l.e
I just replied with the two requested documents attached....It took a couple minutes to upload but it did not post?
Where did it go?
Jim
How could I know where your post has gone? : - )
Just try again...
I tried to POST again and the two attachments upload for a couple minutes then the screen switches to some general screen and there is no post....no explanation
I thought since you seem to be a knowledgeable forum moderator you might know what is going on. I certainly do not.
I would have thought the post with the screen shots would have been some help .....did you look at them?
Thanks, Jim
hi jim
i did some checks:
- you have the rights to upload attachments. (and this is confirmed by the fact that you did upload two PNGs)
- you have 4 contributions, which are the ones i see in this thread.
- i the logs i have access to, there is no trace of a failed upload.
and the screenshots seem to show that you correctly did setup the facing pages in scribus (but are wrongly using the grid... hint: never activate the grid, except if you're doing vector graphics... which you probably should not do with scribus...).
and it shows a pdf view that is not correct.
but i have no clue, how you did create the other view.
are you going through "file > export > to pdf..."?
if you upload the .sla and pdf i can:
- check that the pdf indeed shows up with facing pages / with the correct starting page
- check that the creator of the pdf is the scribus pdf engine
- check the document setup for the .sla
- try to produce a .pdf from that .sla and see what heppens
... all things that i cannot do with a png.
you might want to try to first zip the .sla and .pdf and upload the zip...
ciao
a.l.e
I just tried uploading two .zip files and got the same result
It seems to take a very long time for the upload (and I have a fast fibre optic line) ....a progress screen shows the % of upload as it goes. At 100% the screen goes to the "Start a New Topic" screen and the post is not there....????
Can you help me a little with this suggestion you made....
(but are wrongly using the grid... hint: never activate the grid, except if you're doing vector graphics... which you probably should not do with scribus...).
Sorry but I don't know about "activating the grid" .....what do I need to do differently?
Jim
I should have added that I did try file> export> PDF and got the same result
Jim
if it takes a long time to upload, the files might be too big for the forum engine.
just create a simple three pages .sla document, produce a pdf and upload both.
ciao
a.l.e
Ok, I created a 3 page .sla doc with PDF and will try to upload both
Same result on the test. The pages are reversed
Jim
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this is how evince shows the pdf on my computer:
(http://forums.scribus.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3363.0;attach=2985;image)
that looks good to me.
which pdf reader are you using?
can you test with a different one?
ciao
a.l.e
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I was starting to think it could be the PDF reader. The default reader in my Windows 10 computer is Microsoft Edge.
So, I just installed Adobe Acrobat Reader and guess what, it views the pages just like Edge. The first page is on the left....see attachment.
This does not make sense to me. What reader are you using?
Jim
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this post
https://superuser.com/questions/235887/how-to-make-the-first-page-of-a-pdf-display-by-itself-and-the-succeeding-pages-d
seems to suggest that in acrobat reader you have to manually set the position for the first page in the document.
personally, i got the "right" layout in evince and a "wrong" one in mupdf (only one page at a time) and firefox (left "padded").
i haven't tried, but i'm pretty sure that evince shows the first page left when the setting is set that way.
With a little help from your post I was able to view the PDF correctly.
In Acrobat Reader go to View>Page Display then click on "Show Cover page in Two Page View".....Acrobat immediately positioned the pages correctly....see attachments
I guess my only question is when it comes time to send the PDF to the publisher do I Export from Scribus then export again from Adobe? Seems like that should work in any case.
Thanks so very much for getting me thru this
Jim :)
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euh, no, it does not work that way : - )
just send the pdf to the printer and tell them to print in the format you want.
if you send only one pdf for a book, they cannot do otherwise than print the first page as the cover, on the "right side".
often, the print shops want one pdf for the front and back cover and one pdf for the content. in that case they will automatically take the first page as the left one. except if they do not print anything on the back of the cover, then it will be the left side again.
but, don't worry, the printer will tell you what they want... or you will have a way to tell them what you want.
normally, if it's a big printshop they will have a form in the web that will tell you exactly which steps to go through.
and if it's a small one, you will be able to talk to them and check that everything is right.
i hope that it's a bit clearer now...
Thanks......some of that I had previously understood but you have cleared up a lot.
I really appreciate all your help
Sincerely,
Jim :)
Just a note...had this exact same issue, and was using my browser to view the PDF. (which was a default so I didn't think about it)
Microsoft Edge has a "Page View" setting. If you set it to 'Two Page" and then set the switch "Show Cover Page Separately" to ON (it is defaulted to 'Off') you will see the document correctly.