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Scribus => Beginner Talk => Topic started by: durkes on September 14, 2011, 09:09:03 pm

Title: font problem
Post by: durkes on September 14, 2011, 09:09:03 pm
When I print out hard copy of my document the "N" comes out as a box. Seems like the only words affected start with an "n". Using new times roman font
Title: Re: font problem
Post by: Christen_Anderson on September 15, 2011, 03:13:34 am
Are you printing directly from Scribus? If so, try exporting to .pdf (embed all fonts in the process), then print from your .pdf viewer.
Title: Re: font problem
Post by: durkes on September 15, 2011, 05:26:38 am
Chrisen
I am printing from Adobe. How does on "embed" fonts? what does that mean?

Jeff
Title: Re: font problem
Post by: Christen_Anderson on September 15, 2011, 05:38:42 pm
When you bring up the "Export to PDF" dialog in Scribus, there should be a tab labeled "fonts." Under this tab, there is an option to embed or outline all fonts.  :)
Title: Re: font problem
Post by: durkes on September 15, 2011, 06:45:32 pm
Christen- Thanks. What does it mean to "embed" or "outline" fonts?
Title: Re: font problem
Post by: Christen_Anderson on September 15, 2011, 07:48:58 pm
Basically, Jeff, embedding/outlining/subsetting a font actually includes the font in the pdf. This is partly so that someone viewing your pdf on another computer can properly view the file without having the fonts used in the pdf installed on their computer. http://desktoppub.about.com/od/pdf/f/subsetfonts.htm (http://desktoppub.about.com/od/pdf/f/subsetfonts.htm)
That's a very basic definition of font embedding...if you want more detailed information, i suggest you ask around on the Scribus mailing list scribus@lists.scribus.net (http://scribus@lists.scribus.net). There are several people frequenting that list who are far more qualified to answer this question than I am. :)
Title: Re: font problem
Post by: utnik on September 15, 2011, 09:14:34 pm
Title: Re: font problem
Post by: Meho R. on September 19, 2011, 03:25:34 pm
    ...
    • 'outlining' means: the characters are transformed into path objects (after that, the thext is a normal vector drawing).
Theoretically, yes, but in Scribus 1.4.x and newer outlining actually doesn't convert fonts to path objects, meaning that text remains selectable, searchable... So, outlining here means subsetting.
Title: Re: font problem
Post by: utnik on September 19, 2011, 04:08:29 pm
hello menho

in Scribus 1.4.x and newer outlining actually doesn't convert fonts to path objects, meaning that text remains selectable, searchable... So, outlining here means subsetting.

i didn't know that, thanks for the information – but it's a little bit more complicated. i have just checked it with a simple .sla-file in 1.4.0rc5. when i open the pdf in acrobat, acrobat reader or macOS preview, it shows normal text, in illustrator the whole text consists of a collection of vector objects. it looks as if it does something more than just embed a font subset…

utnik
Title: Re: font problem
Post by: John_Jason_Jordan on September 19, 2011, 06:03:00 pm
i didn't know that, thanks for the information – but it's a little bit more complicated. i have just checked it with a simple .sla-file in 1.4.0rc5. when i open the pdf in acrobat, acrobat reader or macOS preview, it shows normal text, in illustrator the whole text consists of a collection of vector objects. it looks as if it does something more than just embed a font subset.

It is Illustrator that is converting text to paths, not something in the PDF file. That is by design. Adobe doesn't want Illustrator to be able to edit PDF files, else people would have less interest in buying full Acrobat.
Title: Re: font problem
Post by: utnik on September 19, 2011, 06:34:18 pm
It is Illustrator that is converting text to paths, not something in the PDF file…

yes, illustrator does something that prevents text from editing. usually text with embedded fonts (or a subset of them) display as characters, without connection between them (each character is its own text block). but the characters are still there – e.g. you can change the font, and the character will display in the chosen new font.
when you outline the fonts in scribus, this is no longer working – so, scribus does something else by outlining, than by subsetting the font…

utnik