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#71
Beginner Talk / Re: pagination
Last post by MrB - December 31, 2024, 10:12:46 AMWhen you export to PDF, you can reorder the pages for export. In the Export Range area of the PDF export dialog, select Choose Pages, then click on the ellipses button. Under Advanced reordering, you can select your page group size, typically this is 4. For a 24 page doc as an example, it will auto generate an export sequence of:
24,1,2,23,22,3,4,21,20,5,6,19,18,7,8,17,16,9,10,15,14,11,12,13
24,1,2,23,22,3,4,21,20,5,6,19,18,7,8,17,16,9,10,15,14,11,12,13
#72
Beginner Talk / Re: pagination
Last post by Nermander - December 31, 2024, 09:45:28 AMjPDF Tweak takes a bit to get used to, but it does have pre-defined settings for booklets.
I was doing a small booklet for christmas now and actually did some testing.
The booklet printing in Acrobat will shrink pages a bit, as did the booklet printing supported by the printer driver.
jPDF Tweak on the other hand did a very nice imposition, but since I had not considered printer margins when I started the design that mean the page borders I had added were cropped, so I had to stick to Acrobat booklet printing.
But while testing, I also test printing pages grids to measure margins and centering, and then used jPDF Tweak to nudge the pages so they became better centered. I think jPDF Tweak supports being run from the command line too, if I was doing this on a regular basis I would probably make BAT files for doing the different actions.
I was doing a small booklet for christmas now and actually did some testing.
The booklet printing in Acrobat will shrink pages a bit, as did the booklet printing supported by the printer driver.
jPDF Tweak on the other hand did a very nice imposition, but since I had not considered printer margins when I started the design that mean the page borders I had added were cropped, so I had to stick to Acrobat booklet printing.
But while testing, I also test printing pages grids to measure margins and centering, and then used jPDF Tweak to nudge the pages so they became better centered. I think jPDF Tweak supports being run from the command line too, if I was doing this on a regular basis I would probably make BAT files for doing the different actions.
#73
Beginner Talk / Re: pagination
Last post by utnik - December 31, 2024, 08:05:45 AMhi weg
the usual way would be to layout your bulletin with 'facing pages' and to export a normal .pdf file.
the reordering of the pages (called 'imposition') is done later.
many .pdf readers have some built-in option for this (called 'booklet printing', 'booklet reorder' or something similar...)
if you print at home and neither your .pdf viewer nor your printer driver provides a booklet function, you might give jpdftweak a try. this is a small versatile .pdf manipulating program.
btw. with 120 pages you're hard at the limit for just fold-and-staple...
utnik
the usual way would be to layout your bulletin with 'facing pages' and to export a normal .pdf file.
the reordering of the pages (called 'imposition') is done later.
many .pdf readers have some built-in option for this (called 'booklet printing', 'booklet reorder' or something similar...)
if you print at home and neither your .pdf viewer nor your printer driver provides a booklet function, you might give jpdftweak a try. this is a small versatile .pdf manipulating program.
btw. with 120 pages you're hard at the limit for just fold-and-staple...
utnik
#74
Showcase / Re: Children book in multiple ...
Last post by utnik - December 31, 2024, 07:30:23 AMyes, it's really cool. but the strange thing is, that the downloadable .pdf on 'archive.org' was generated by indesign 17.3.
utnik
utnik
#75
Beginner Talk / [SOLVED] pagination
Last post by weg - December 31, 2024, 05:19:47 AMWe publish a bulletin some 120 pages of two faced sheets, printed
on both sides assembled with pairs of sheets wrapping previous
collated pages, from the center outward to the cover sheets.
Pagination is not sequential. Rather, (in a random example) page
36 will be printed on the left and page 105 of the right facing
side. Page 35 on the reverse side of 36 and 106 on the reverse
side of 105. Indesign will do this; but is straining our limited
budget. Will Scribus paginate as described? If yes, give me
some guidance as where to research. What I have read and watched
on of Scribus pagination has not shown me how.
on both sides assembled with pairs of sheets wrapping previous
collated pages, from the center outward to the cover sheets.
Pagination is not sequential. Rather, (in a random example) page
36 will be printed on the left and page 105 of the right facing
side. Page 35 on the reverse side of 36 and 106 on the reverse
side of 105. Indesign will do this; but is straining our limited
budget. Will Scribus paginate as described? If yes, give me
some guidance as where to research. What I have read and watched
on of Scribus pagination has not shown me how.
#76
Beginner Talk / Re: Editing grouped objects an...
Last post by AdmFubar - December 30, 2024, 11:25:27 PMFrom the main menu select the entry Windows. In the drop down menu look for the Outline entry. and select that one.
In the panel that opens (resize as needed) and scroll through the list to find the group you need to edit. Click the + to expand and show the objects in the group, then click the text entry. The selected entry should show as selected in the group. You can now double click to edit the text, you should see the text cursor where in the text that you clicked.
In the panel that opens (resize as needed) and scroll through the list to find the group you need to edit. Click the + to expand and show the objects in the group, then click the text entry. The selected entry should show as selected in the group. You can now double click to edit the text, you should see the text cursor where in the text that you clicked.
#77
Showcase / Re: Children book in multiple ...
Last post by MrB - December 30, 2024, 09:30:25 PMThat's cool 
#78
Showcase / Children book in multiple lang...
Last post by a.l.e - December 30, 2024, 07:37:11 PMToday I was watching
https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-let-s-spark-children-s-interest-in-coding
and, at the end of the talk, I got "forwarded" to
Ada & Zangemann - A Tale of Software, Skateboards, and Raspberry Ice Cream
A book about kids and programming.
While looking for the book, I've discovered that it's done with Scribus, produced in multiple languages.
The result is pretty and worth to have a look:
https://archive.org/details/ada-zangemann/
I've not yet read it, but I stumbled on their git repository
https://git.fsfe.org/FSFE/ada-zangemann
and it contains all the resources to create the book:
In my eyes, this is a good starting point for people who want to use Scribus to create a book that is translated in multiple languages and automatically fill the content out of text files.
While looking at the files, I've noticed a few things:
All in all: they made good choices and they managed to create a workflow that is simple to follow and adapt.
But, I have to admit that, now, I'm tempted to write a Python script that runs inside of Scribus, make it more general to be used also for other books and fill tickets for all the feature that are missing (as an example for the drop caps, if they cannot do what is needed for this book!)
https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-let-s-spark-children-s-interest-in-coding
and, at the end of the talk, I got "forwarded" to
Ada & Zangemann - A Tale of Software, Skateboards, and Raspberry Ice Cream
A book about kids and programming.
While looking for the book, I've discovered that it's done with Scribus, produced in multiple languages.
The result is pretty and worth to have a look:
https://archive.org/details/ada-zangemann/
I've not yet read it, but I stumbled on their git repository
https://git.fsfe.org/FSFE/ada-zangemann
and it contains all the resources to create the book:
- the Scribus templates
- the images
- the scripts to fill the Scribus files and produce the PDFs for print and for viewing.
In my eyes, this is a good starting point for people who want to use Scribus to create a book that is translated in multiple languages and automatically fill the content out of text files.
While looking at the files, I've noticed a few things:
- They are not using the Scribus drop caps, but are inserting them from images (they did not find the drop caps or Scribus is not implementing them in a fitting way?).
- They are not using the Python scripting inside of Scribus (except for simple code for producing the PDF from the finished .sla), but longer Perl and Shell scripts.
- They are putting the text into the .sla by modifying the raw .sla XML in a Perl script, rather than loading the text
- They are not using the page numbers (and they are not using master pages).
- No text formatting (the script removes the formatting) and the text is kept left aligned (a choice that makes handling multiple translations much easier and with all the fancy graphics it's probably a good choice).
- For some reason, they are creating one template per language, instead of filling the same .sla (template) with each language.
All in all: they made good choices and they managed to create a workflow that is simple to follow and adapt.
But, I have to admit that, now, I'm tempted to write a Python script that runs inside of Scribus, make it more general to be used also for other books and fill tickets for all the feature that are missing (as an example for the drop caps, if they cannot do what is needed for this book!)
#79
Beginner Talk / Re: Editing grouped objects an...
Last post by a.l.e - December 30, 2024, 04:49:29 PMpersonally, most of the time i avoid getting text to float around images.
having images of the same width of the column or a multiple of columns mostly give a better result.
if you're interested on doing this with scribus, please upload a .sla with some fake texts and frames (no need to upload the images in them...) and i can check if what i'm suggesting might fit to your document.
this having been said...
having images of the same width of the column or a multiple of columns mostly give a better result.
if you're interested on doing this with scribus, please upload a .sla with some fake texts and frames (no need to upload the images in them...) and i can check if what i'm suggesting might fit to your document.
this having been said...
- you can select single items in a group by using the alt key (or with the outline palette...)
- when the text item is selected, you can use the "e" key to enter the edit mode and type your new text
- when the image frame is selected, use ctrl-i (or the file menu) to load a new image (or the "e" key to scale the image and/or moving it around inside of the frame)
- currently, if you modify the size of the frame, the flow will not get updated (see https://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=17355)
#80
General Discussion / Re: Stack overflow on loading
Last post by a.l.e - December 30, 2024, 04:08:57 PMif the crash also occurs when you load the file without images, i fear that the .sla file is corrupted.
would you mind uploading it here or in the bug tracker (https://bugs.scribus.net)?
(only the sla, not the images)
in the bug tracker, you have the option to mark the upload as "private", then it's not world readable and only the developers will have access to it.
on top of it, sadly, the fact you bought a new computer, does not automatically mean that you will have access to more memory.
newer operating systems tend to eat up more memory and computer manufacturer often preload the computer with more and more crap software that keep your computer busy and well fed.
that could also be a reason for the lack of RAM.
on the other side, i'm not sure that adding virtual memory will be of a big help (in the contrary, scribus might not play well with it...)
would you mind uploading it here or in the bug tracker (https://bugs.scribus.net)?
(only the sla, not the images)
in the bug tracker, you have the option to mark the upload as "private", then it's not world readable and only the developers will have access to it.
on top of it, sadly, the fact you bought a new computer, does not automatically mean that you will have access to more memory.
newer operating systems tend to eat up more memory and computer manufacturer often preload the computer with more and more crap software that keep your computer busy and well fed.
that could also be a reason for the lack of RAM.
on the other side, i'm not sure that adding virtual memory will be of a big help (in the contrary, scribus might not play well with it...)