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User Interface / Re: Scribus UI/UX and Styles
« Last post by a.l.e on May 31, 2019, 10:26:11 am »
i think that you have missed the part where i mostly agree with tim_occ (up the the plan to split everything in small widgets that float around... because of: https://www.ianbicking.org/blog/2019/04/users-want-control-is-a-shrug.html).

defining resources in place (colors, styles)  is something i've been wanting for years, but somebody has to do the coding work and i have other priorities.
what about you?

we probably do different kind of works with scribus, but creating and applying colors is the last thing i find hard in scribus.
applying character and paragraph styles is something that made me suffering... since i know how to program, i have a patch i've been using for years... sadly, there was technical reason that made it hard to distribute it to other people... but that might be partially solved now and it might get in soon...
i got other people to improve other specific parts, in fields in which i'm not so proficient. by describing exactly what i needed, why and how to improve it. it did not always work, but it sometimes did.

finally, your rant comes over like telling a mum that her child looks ugly, just look at that other child his dad makes her look so cute. just do the same as him.
maybe you don't understand that mother's esthetic, maybe there are reasons why her child looks the way he looks, maybe you should give that child an ice cream and when he starts smiling, you will notice that he is also soooooo cute... even with one leg...
or maybe that mum needs some help... and judgemental guys are the last thing she needs.

tu capisce?

ciao
a.l.e
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Beginner Talk / Master page not retaining certain properties
« Last post by Rasmus on May 31, 2019, 10:20:22 am »
Hi

I am terribly new (as of yesterday).

I started out making a document, and tinkering with styles and so on, and it worked great, so I figured I would do a master page next.
So I set up two master pages, one right and one left, with a pagenumber at the bottom corner of each page.
This pagenumber has been set to 50% colour not to "pop" too much on the page. So far so good.
I can make new pages based on these masters, retaining all other properties of the master (some headers and so on) but, and here's the rub, the pagenumber turns back to 100% colour and I cannot click on page 3 or 4 or so on's page number box to edit it manually.
Clearly I am missing something. What might it be?
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User Interface / Re: Scribus UI/UX and Styles
« Last post by bkf1 on May 30, 2019, 11:15:28 am »
Dear a.l.e,
I know you cannot copy InDesign mechanisms BUT you can be INSPIRED by it. Publishing is about UNDERSTANDING how it works, what is important (what must be at hand) etc. and sorry but I have a feeling that Scribus developers haven't understand DTP very clearly.
You can also be inspired by thread in this forum http://forums.scribus.net/index.php/topic,1617.0.html (user tim_occ and his Indigo project). I see he UNDERSTAND what is DTP about but unfortunately he apparently ended his work :(

Anyway you really must change the way how to define/change colour in Scribus. Look in ANY other publishing applications how EASY is to define/change colour of an object and how INCREDIBLY HARD is to do the same in Scribus (1.5.4 of course).

I hope that not only I but even others will see the progress of Scribus in the future...

BTW in attachment you can see how easy is to define/change colour of an object in Inkscape.
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Layout Issues / Re: Diary -
« Last post by tdubya211 on May 29, 2019, 11:18:14 pm »
Thank you a.l.e,

You're right I have plenty of time, so I'll get stuck into some tutorials and start trying to work up the middle pages which is the whole of September on one side with half of August and October on the other.  My plan is to get it printed properly on good quality paper.

Any recommendations for tutorials on the basics of creating forms using rows and columns please?

Thank you again for the encouragement too..
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User Interface / Re: Scribus UI/UX and Styles
« Last post by a.l.e on May 29, 2019, 04:52:02 pm »
dear bkf1

we cannot copy indesign. you know: copyrights.

but if there are specific things you want to see changed, make a detailed description, provide icons and so on for each change.

telling: "just make it better, other people do it better", won't help much, to get scribus to improve, sorry.

and i'm glad you're happy using CS2 for free. that's your right!

(btw, if you want to have a look at scribus, you should download 1.5, not 1.4. it's not as good as it should be... but imo a big improvements... at least concerning the usability!)
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User Interface / Re: Scribus UI/UX and Styles
« Last post by bkf1 on May 29, 2019, 03:21:05 pm »
Hello all... I'm a DTP (DeskTop Publishing) graphic designer for nearly 20 years, my primary "tool" is Adobe InDesign, but I'm also interested in alternatives so I have tryed Scribus. OH MY GOD THIS IS SO... how to say it politely... AWFUL!!!! UI of this DTP app is... oh my god... e.g. the way how you select the colors... AWFUL!!!! I have NEVER imagined that any DTP application can be designed THAT BADLY! So what now? I STROGLY recommend to ANYONE who is able to modify this... thing... to see OLD InDesign CS2 (year 2005) in action, to UNDERSTAND what is DTP about!!!
BTW old InDesign CS2 (NOT CS 5, 6 or CC) has, in my opinion, the BEST UI and it was the time when Adobe InDesign developers understood desktop publishing the best... and for years it's completely FREE from Adobe site.
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Layout Issues / Re: Diary -
« Last post by a.l.e on May 29, 2019, 09:52:43 am »
P.S: you have lot of time ahead, so start doing something and showing it for review...
the best way from beginner to a professional looking result is some exercise... not long discussions on how one could do it : - )
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Layout Issues / Re: Diary -
« Last post by a.l.e on May 29, 2019, 08:05:49 am »
Scribus will create a PDF that you can print, yes.

But the question is: will you print the diary on your own office / home printer or send it to a commercial print shop for printing?

If you're going to print it "at home", you'll probably need  software for doing the imposition: putting the pages as layouted onto the each sheet of paper.

If you're sending it to a print shop, you will normally send a double faced PDF and they'll figure out how to get onto the paper.

Both are doable.
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PDF Generation / Re: PDF Metadata
« Last post by utnik on May 29, 2019, 12:43:48 am »
as i don't know the tools to insert metadata into an existing .pdf file, i would export them again…

utnik
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Layout Issues / Re: Diary -
« Last post by tdubya211 on May 28, 2019, 11:38:57 pm »
Thank you guys for your replies... I'm beginning to think this is going to be way more complicated than I thought.  I'm prepared to invest my time in learning so that I can continue to use the diary format I'm used to.

The diary is 18 month, with each month on view across two pages.  There are 12 sheets printed on both sides, folded in the middle to create the booklet form.  The middle pages has September across the whole of the same side, on the reverse you have half of October on one side, with half of August on the other.  I'm sorry but I assumed possibly wrongly that Scribus or In Design would let you design each full two page spread and then magically sort out the printing for you.

Thanks again.

Tdub
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