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Features / Re: Master Document for long works?
« Last post by jack_cat on May 31, 2020, 08:12:57 pm »
I'm bumping this old post because I think it's a great idea!

However, I get along without it so far, with the PDF merge routine outlined by A.L.E,
and keeping all chapters in separate files with the page numbers set consecutively.
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User Interface / Re: story editor
« Last post by jack_cat on May 31, 2020, 07:47:41 pm »
@A.L.E
You make it clear that you have a low opinion of the Story Editor.
I understand that from one point of view one should be able to do everything
in a text frame in the main window, using the properties window on the side.
I am doing considerably more of that as I become more familiar with the
Properties Window, which I found difficult to work with at first. 

All the same I use the Story Editor quite a bit. It is mis-named, for a start: it is not convenient for editing large files, and much easier to use with short texts. The word "Story" is misleading. "Editor" would be fine.

I am pleased with the improvement to the SE found in Scribus 1.5.2 over 1.4.6. The display font can be set, and this improves the look and feel a whole lot. So, somebody has worked on it.
I would merely like to express my hope that there will be further work on it.
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User Interface / Re: Zoom function in 1.5.2 worse than in 1.4.6
« Last post by jack_cat on May 31, 2020, 07:37:18 pm »
Thanks Admiral  - I'm sorry, I was shooting from the hip. I have found that the zoom functions in 1.5.2 are superior to those in 1.4.6, but I have an old habit of hitting CONTROL > + / -, which worked in 1.4.6 and no longer works in 1.5.2.

There is a mousable zoom button at the bottom of the page in 1.5.2 which I hadn't noticed yet, and the increments of the zoom function are actually adjustable (somewhere - I did find it once. Maybe it's in Doc Setup.) So, I was completely wrong, and I apologize.
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Raster and Vector Graphics / Re: Master page problems
« Last post by jack_cat on May 31, 2020, 07:16:06 pm »
In terms of deciding whether to use one big file or eleven smaller ones, it appears to me that the chief factor to consider is whether Scribus is cludging down with the larger file size due to memory issues. If performance slows unacceptably, split the big file into chapters. On my system I find I am limited to about 50 pages and that after this Scribus runs slowly, but I think this is due to my computer's own memory limitations. (8 gigs, 6 usable). Probably most of you have a lot more, ha. The master pages issue is not related to this. It should be perfectly possible to make as many master pages as you can use. The Doc Setup menu has a way to divide a file into sections if required, with different page numbers or footnote orders. 
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Beginner Talk / Re: Footnotes
« Last post by jack_cat on May 31, 2020, 07:04:13 pm »
On further work with the footnotes over the last couple of days, I am pleased to find that Scribus 1.5.2 does have the capacity to format the style of the footnotes. There are two menu items under EDIT > NOTE STYLES and EDIT > MARKS.

Having observed the parameters outlined in my posts above, I have in fact had no further crashes and the footnote function is working fine and updating fine.

To recap:
(1) Don't try to copy and paste a block of text with a footnote in it. Instead, copy the footnote text to a text file, delete the footnote, and re-insert it after the copy and paste operation.

(2) Be very cautious about changing styles of text which contains footnotes. Hit the SAVE button first.

(3) The text frame containing the footnote is not adjustable in size by default, because it is set in the EDIT > NOTE STYLES menu to "automatic height and width". Unchecking these allows the frame to be adjusted using the standard arrow handles. Left on the "automatic" setting, the footnote text frame routinely overflows, requiring the addition of another linked text frame.

(4) It also turns out that in the EDIT > NOTE STYLES menu you can toggle between footnotes and endnotes, and you can even create multiple footnote styles. I haven't tried the end-note function yet.

These basic things should get anybody up and running with the footnotes in 1.5.2. If anybody has any further questions I will certainly try to find the answers, being this deep into it already.

jack
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PDF Generation / Re: Making a PDF for my printer
« Last post by HarrieJ on May 30, 2020, 04:30:39 pm »
Thanks all,

I used to export to PDF and make one document in PDF, 24 pages. Last month I asked my printshop how they they work and learned that they make seperate pages using Adobe Acrobat Pro. That way they had 24 files from about 130 MB each.
Since now I export to PDF but make it all seperate pages with Scribus. And have 24 files from 1 to 40 MB. My printshop has received them 2 days ago and said it's allright now. My magazine is printed and on its way to my readers.

But I learned thanks to you that scribus does not insert pictures but only links to them. And I knew that I could make PDF from each page but never askes my printshop how they would have the PDF. So I sended it always in one big PDF.
In this new way it is better now. I now know he gladly accepts the 24 files and make the magazine much easier.

Thanks you all. Every time I learn more about Scribus.  Perfect programm

HarrieJ
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Beginner Talk / Re: Some Good Behaviour by Footnotes
« Last post by jack_cat on May 29, 2020, 03:24:49 pm »
Having mapped the actions which will make Scribus's footnotes crash
(detailed piecemeal above)
it is not difficult to learn to be cautious.

However, the footnotes have some virtues!
It is possible to zoom out, select an entire Scribus page (containing one or more footnotes),
push it off to the side of the work area (the text frame and its footnote kept in the same relationship),
clear off another page, and interchange the contents of the two pages, and,
miracle, the footnotes sometimes re-number themselves spontaneously (haven't completely mapped this)

but if they don't, there is a function for it: Extras > Update Document
and on running this, the footnotes rearrange their numbers according to the new page layout.

So, by carefully avoiding the crash behaviours, I am finding that automatic footnote renumbering
is indeed possible in Scribus 1.5.2, and that the limitations are that one must be very cautious
about changing styles of paragraphs that contain footnotes, and very cautious about cutting and
pasting text in a way that will potentially break up the text and its footnote. The crashes that
I have gotten while editing the text within the footnote block appear unavoidable, and the
remedy is to just hit that SAVE button first, and take your chances.
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Beginner Talk / Re: Footnotes
« Last post by jack_cat on May 28, 2020, 08:32:24 pm »
So, the rule I have established is, hit that Save button before doing anything
to or with a footnote!

I report the following crash sequences. I'm not complaining, just reporting.

I have a page with one text frame and four footnotes. I put three footnotes
in without a crash; the third note caused an overflow of the footnote text frame.
I did "select all" within the footnote text frame and set the style to "footnote",
and the footnote text frame resized itself and accomodated all three footnotes.

The 4th note caused the box to overflow again. The routine of "select all" etc
did not work. So, I hovered the mouse over the red x in the lower rh corner and
clicked on the message that offered to add another frame. The new note filled
the new frame. So far so good.

I had a stray extra line that was in between two of the notes where I had copied
an extra carriage return. When I deleted this line, Scribus crashed. It was
kind enough to give me a message: "Scribus crashes due to xxxx exception"
(sorry I didn't screenshot the error message.)

Here's another crash for no particular reason, I was just editing a text frame,
and, again deleted a line. I HAD been editing footnotes, but I was not doing so at the time. 
There was a footnote in the text frame. The style had been lost on the paragraph somehow,
and I had just reset the style of the paragraph the footnote was in.
APPCRASH
  Application Name:   Scribus.exe
  Application Version:   1.5.2.0
  Application Timestamp:   5739eced
  Fault Module Name:   Scribus.exe
  Fault Module Version:   1.5.2.0
  Fault Module Timestamp:   5739eced
  Exception Code:   c0000005
  Exception Offset:   005e6272
  OS Version:   6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
  Locale ID:   1033
  Additional Information 1:   0a9e
  Additional Information 2:   0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
  Additional Information 3:   0a9e
  Additional Information 4:   0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

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Showcase / Re: Submissions for Scribus Templates
« Last post by a.l.e on May 28, 2020, 06:20:51 pm »
impagina.org has been setup by myself.

the concept and visual appearance has been created in this forum by a few contributors:

http://forums.scribus.net/index.php/topic,2282.0.html

the result has been proposed to the scribus team through this ticket:

https://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=15223

but there was no feedback.

after some time i decided to put it online, so that the team might see how it looks when in it's up and running.

i've been trying to keep it active, but i was a bit lonely. if other people join i'm willing to put more effort in keeping it up to date and lively. : - )
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Beginner Talk / Re: Footnotes
« Last post by jack_cat on May 28, 2020, 04:44:43 pm »
Some footnote misbehaviours to add to the list:
It seems to be impossible to grab the handles of the text box containing the
footnote text in order to re-size the box. I am working on this. Instead
of the re-size arrow, I get only a Hand symbol for moving the entire text frame.

Sometimes the text which I paste into the footnote frame immediately after inserting
the footnote fills the frame perfectly and the footnote frame size auto-adjusts. Other times it
does not, and the red x appears in the lower rh corner. It is possible to click the red x
and cause the insertion of another linked text frame which contains the overflow.
This is weird, better to merely enlarge the first frame, if I could grab the handles;
nevertheless it gives workable results in the .sla file so far.

It would be nice if the footnote engine would look for and recognize a style called "footnote"
so that I would not have to reset the style of the footnote frame every time. The text which
I paste into the footnote frame after inserting the footnote goes in in default paragraph style
at 11 points, and so I have to select it and change the style, and italicize the title. There may
be no way around this. I think that there will have to be a sub-routine in the footnote engine
to define the footnote style, and that this could be linked to the style editing window.
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