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General Discussion / Re: Problem with color values
« Last post by a.l.e on June 14, 2019, 04:33:06 pm »
if you internetsearch for "gimp color pink triangle" you will see that there might be an issue in gimp related to color management...

in my case, the color management is disabled and i also get that "non matching color" and a pink triangle in the upper right corner......
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General Discussion / Problem with color values
« Last post by kurokopi on June 14, 2019, 12:11:55 am »
I've noticed that the color values I used in scribus, results in a different color tone in another app like Gimp, even if the values are equal (see the attached picture).

Could someone please explain that to me?
I have to admit that I am really a noob about color management.

Thank you very much in advance!
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Beginner Talk / Re: Choosing Scribus vs Illustrator vs InDesign etc.
« Last post by leif1 on June 13, 2019, 11:00:10 pm »
Thanks a.l.e., for your reply.  I am using Scribus 1.5.4.  I tried the stable version 1.4.x originally, but it would never get past the "loading color profiles" or something, some kind of incompatibility with Mac OS 10.14 I think.

I was surprised to learn about the search/replace limitation.  For text edits, I'm pretty comfortable with plain text editors, so I think BBEdit would do the trick, and the XML file format is a HUGE benefit.  But, I'd want the ability to e.g. change all the "gray 1 px solid" boxes to "black 3 pixel dotted" boxes, so that could be a problem if not possible in Scribus.  But, depending on how that's encoded, it might also be possible to change using BBEdit?

I am surprised that you say "intelligent" headers/footers are missing in Scribus?  Maybe I don't know what this means, but I imagine automatic page numbers, and dynamic right vs. left page headers, which I understand Scribus can do.

But the biggest issue I think is, currently in Illustrator I use the "Appearance" panel which allows you to easily create a black leader line (for labeling) that stands out visually because it is outlined in white, by giving it two strokes, a black stroke on top of a thicker white stroke.  This could possibly be done with "effects" (e.g. "outer glow") but I see that whereas Scribus has Image Effects on bitmaps (e.g. blur, brightness etc.), I don't think it offers any effects for vector shapes.  I see there is a good selection of line styles, though.

Currently, I think what might be best is to
1) Create each page (without header) in Illustrator (or even Photoshop) and export as PNG or JPEG
2) Load them into Scribus, one per page.
3) Add page header (including page numbers) in Scribus.
It seems a shame to convert the writing (which is a font) and vector shapes to a bitmap, but this might be the best way to combine the strengths of Illustrator and Scribus.


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Beginner Talk / Re: Problem when layout a book (dictionary) Headers especial
« Last post by a.l.e on June 13, 2019, 08:29:13 pm »
so i need to know more about the details...

... and if you're getting paid for the job, i would not be against getting paid for some of my work... (the result would be published as free software).
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Beginner Talk / Re: Choosing Scribus vs Illustrator vs InDesign etc.
« Last post by a.l.e on June 13, 2019, 08:28:12 pm »
from what i've read in your description, it seems indeed that you could profit from using a layout (DTP) program.

from your list, the features that you will be missing in scribus are (afaict):

- search (and replace) through the whole document.
- "intelligent" headers and footers (but i'm not sure you're asking for them).

for the rest, i have the feeling that it's mostly about learning how scribus does the things.

i would suggest you, that you share single pages of your work as images and / or as .sla (scribus) files and collect some feedback.

you should also say, if you think of using the stable (1.4) or the development version (1.5).
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Beginner Talk / Choosing Scribus vs Illustrator vs InDesign etc.
« Last post by leif1 on June 13, 2019, 08:10:02 pm »
Hello everyone,

I'm working on a book that is similar to a graphic novel (although I favor a relatively free-form and hand-drawn look, so specialized software like Comic Life and Clip Studio seems not suitable).  Basically it's a large number of PNGs I've drawn, combined with text blocks (with my own custom font) and vector shapes into a complex layout on each page.

I started this project in Adobe Illustrator (because I have Adobe CS 5.1).  The idea was to generate a PDF of each page, then use software like Adobe Acrobat to combine the separate page PDFs into one large PDF which works great.

Then I realized, this seemed silly to do.  Since I'm doing a book, surely I want Desktop Publishing software, right?  Unfortunately I don't have InDesign (or Quark), so looking for less expensive options, I arrived at Scribus.

First, I am grateful to see this product exists at all, and ready to donate if it becomes a good "fit" for me.  Now, I have no experience with InDesign, Quark, etc., and just started using Scribus so I don't know what features to expect.  The reason I moved away from Illustrator is wanting multi-page features like:
-Automatic page numbering
-Left vs. right "master page" formatting (although, in Illustrator I simply set up two different templates)
-Ability to insert / delete / shuffle pages and have them correctly change page number, and correctly change left vs. right page format.  Potential big advantage for Scribus!
-Master pages with page header - I assume this is a big advantage (although, can be "faked" somewhat in Illustrator).
-Document-wide search/replace if needed (not sure if I can fake this in Illustrator for dozens of separate files, probably not).
-Ideally, blocks of text/graphics should "flow" from one page to the next as I insert content at the beginning.  (This sort of "works" in MS Word, except it gets somewhat unreliable when a Word document is built of nothing but text blocks and absolutely positioned images; it's not really designed to work that way, and I gave up on Word for this.)
-Possibly other features I cannot envision that will help with a "large document" (e.g. 100+ pp.).

But, after using Scribus a few days, I notice (I think) some deficiencies of Scribus relative to Illustrator:
-Not nearly as powerful in working with vector shapes; no dynamic vector effects, for example (nothing like "outer glow", or multistroke "appearance", etc.)
-Some awkwardness in working with resizing images on the page (e.g. can't just click & drag as you can with Illustrator, need to work with a "frame" for everything, need the extra step of "adjust frame to image size").
-I read on these forums that Scribus doesn't do well with large documents anyway, so you need to break it into chunks, make PDFs separately, and then combine them.  So, for page number and left-vs.-right page layout, there would be some "fiddling" involved, which diminishes those Scribus advantages over Illustrator.
-Also, I am realizing, I suspect there isn't ANY software that allows text blocks/images to "flow" from one page to the next as you insert content above it; this may be an unrealistic fantasy (I'm guessing, 99% of graphic novel artists simply plan all page layouts carefully in advance so they don't need this feature).

If anybody has experience with other DTP software like InDesign, etc., I'm curious if that's where I should be headed next, or, are there features I have not yet discovered in Scribus that would make Scribus worth pursuing further.  Or, maybe for my project Illustrator really is the best solution.  Thanks for reading!
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Beginner Talk / Re: Problem when layout a book (dictionary) Headers especial
« Last post by Compay on June 13, 2019, 01:02:14 am »
Yesss pleaseeeeee ;D
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General Discussion / Re: Blogging About Scribus
« Last post by mbuscemi on June 11, 2019, 12:18:29 am »
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I read it briefly, I did not see any information about what version of Scribus you used?

I evaluated Pop!_OS, whose app store currently has Scribus v1.4.8. When I mention exploring the 1.5 series, that was on Mac OSX, where I was using Scribus 1.5.4, which I downloaded from the Scribus website.

Since you mention reading briefly, I recommend you read the third and final post to the end. I doubt you will dislike or disagree with my conclusion.

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...comparing a fairly "young" Scribus with a "mature" InDesign is not really fair.

I would tend to disagree. It is fair to the extent that I am performing an evaluation of whether or not I can achieve my particular goals with one piece of software or another. That is merely a technical evaluation of two pieces of software. Technical evaluations happen quite frequently, both in professional and personal computing contexts. I did not set out to make any sweeping claims of "rightness" or "validity" of either piece of software. I merely wanted to find out if I could discover a Scribus workflow capable of replacing my known InDesign workflow.
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General Discussion / Re: Blogging About Scribus
« Last post by Nermander on June 10, 2019, 06:55:13 pm »
I read it briefly, I did not see any information about what version of Scribus you used?

The thing that struck me is that you initially tried to use an InDesign workflow using Scribus. But Scribus is not intended to mimic InDesing, as I noticed you discovered later Scribus has its own way to do some things (for example the Scrapbook instead of InDesign Master Pages).

Being FOSS Scribus might not develop as fast as InDesign, so comparing a fairly "young" Scribus with a "mature" InDesign is not really fair. If someone would pay the Scribus developers the same money as InDesign developers get we would see Scribus improve a lot faster. But is it is now Scribus mainly depends on voluntary work.
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Beginner Talk / Re: Problem when layout a book (dictionary) Headers especial
« Last post by a.l.e on June 10, 2019, 11:10:24 am »
if you have paragraph styles for the terms, this might be possible possible with a python script.

i can try to write such a script if you want to go that way...
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