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Layout Issues / Re: Layer
« Last post by a.l.e on June 13, 2018, 07:03:05 pm »
michel,

if i understand your posts correctly:

- adobe acrobat does not show the hidden layers but prints them.
- on the other side, scribus does not include the non-printable layers in the pdf.
- scribus can warn you if you have layers where the visibility and printability do not match. (sadly it's only optional)

personally, i don't know what invisible layers in adobe acrobat are good for (in a print workflow) and i would probably prefer that scribus does not include the information in the pdf it creates (so you can temporary hide a layer and still get it ti show up in the pdf and in print).
but this is not how scribus works.

since scribus is not a PDF authoring tool but a tool targeting the professional printing press, it would probably be more sensible to have the same behavior as autocad, but i don't think you will be able to convince the team of making the change.
(having them to make the "mismatch" warning activated by default would be already a big step!)

all in all, scribus and adobe reader seem to be doing the right thing, according to the pdf standard. so both are behaving correctly.
if you only consider the professional printing workflow, it's not the best behavior, but there is no formal error.
so, all you can do, is to enable the "mismatch" alert and hope for the best.

... if i understood you correctly.


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pas de chance.
c'est comme ça, et ça ne va pas changer.

ciao
a.l.e
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Layout Issues / Re: Layer
« Last post by michel56 on June 13, 2018, 11:47:49 am »
Thanks for your help.

There is no change with Adobe Reader. All prints with the slaps disabled.

I had already tested with version 1.5 under Ubuntu.

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Merci pour votre aide.

Il y a aucun changement avec Adobe Reader. Tous s'imprime avec les claques désactivés.

J'avais déjà tester avec la version 1.5 sous Ubuntu.
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Layout Issues / Re: Layer
« Last post by a.l.e on June 13, 2018, 10:55:50 am »
can you please, what happens with a pdf created with scribus 1.5?
(i've attached it)

if i recall correctly, something has changed some time ago...
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Layout Issues / Re: Layer
« Last post by michel56 on June 12, 2018, 01:52:44 pm »
It would take a "print when visible" flag in addition to "printable / visible"

Autocad does not offer the choice of the flag it creates it with this value "Print when visible" only.
Attached an overview with adobe. All layers are frozen and prints them anyway.

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Il faudrait un drapeau "Imprimer lorsque visible" en plus de « imprimables / visibles »

Autocad ne propose pas le choix du drapeau il le crée avec cette valeur "Imprimer lorsque visible" uniquement.

En pièce jointe un apercu avec adobe. Tous les calques sont gelés et il les imprime quand même.
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Beginner Talk / Re: Only first letter of each line visible
« Last post by PeterLinux on June 12, 2018, 12:43:39 pm »
I use Xubuntu 16.04 (AMD 64bit) Longtime support.

When I view the file with document viewer (Evince) it looks as it should.

Attached is a screenshot of Scribus.

Kind regards
Peter
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Layout Issues / Re: Layer
« Last post by a.l.e on June 12, 2018, 12:20:19 pm »
so, i've had a look at the .sla and the .pdf you have created.

what sticks out from the .sla file, is that you have many layers that are printable but not visible.

because they are printable, they will be included in the pdf.

i don't have any adobe acrobat on this machine, and i cannot test it with this program, but from what i'm writing (and what i understand from it) it seems that both scribus and adobe are doing the right thing and respect the the printable / visible flags.

i guess that evince and other viewer only respect the visible flag.
i've checked with inkscape, and all the layers are indeed included in the pdf, even if evince only shows me the visible ones (and i don't find any way to view the hiddens one).

there is probably a way to get the adobe products to behave in the way you want them to, maybe someone will be able to give you hints on that part.

finally, in the "preferences > preflight verifier" you can indeed get scribus to warn you when there is a mismatch between the "printability" and visibility of a layer (iirc it was a request of mine... and i would have preferred to have it on by default... but not everybody agreed with me on that latter point...).
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Layout Issues / Re: Layer
« Last post by michel56 on June 12, 2018, 11:42:50 am »
Hello,

Here's a simple example with a Scribus file, a PDF, and a print preview with Adobe Reader.

When I print the PDF all layers are printed even if they are disabled in the adobe layer manager. With Evice on Ubuntu no problem.

With Autocad it works well. Except it's too complicated to handle the order of displaying layers. That's why I prefer Scribus.

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Bonjour,

Voici un exemple simple avec un fichier Scribus, un PDF et un aperçu avant impression avec Adobe Reader.

Quand j’imprime le PDF l'ensemble des calques est imprimé même s'il sont désactivés dans le gestionnaire de calque d'adobe. Avec Évice sur Ubuntu pas de problème.

Avec Autocad ça fonctionne bien. Sauf qu'il est trop compliqué pour gérer l'ordre d'affichage des calques. C'est pour cela que je préfère Scribus.

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General Discussion / Re: Scribus in a workflow? (text issues)
« Last post by a.l.e on June 12, 2018, 11:28:28 am »
hi fairmiles,

i'm following your write ups and -- in parallel -- i'm creating a set of files for reproducing the single behaviors:

- with detailed instructions on how to reproduce
- a description of the current results and
- a list of improvements that are necessary or nice to have

i'm starting with the html import, since it's a bit easier to create the demo files. but i plan to do the same files for odt, too.

i'll make the repository public as soon as i consider that the structure is definitive and i will then welcome contributions!

and concerning @mnavij concern about importing xml files: i would first get the html import straight and then see if there is a real need for some solution for custom xml...
what exactly do you want to do with xml wthat cannot be done with some python scripting (python can read xml and there is a scribus API for python) or with html?

ciao
a.l.e
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Layout Issues / Re: Layer
« Last post by a.l.e on June 12, 2018, 11:11:35 am »
bonjour michel

if the problem persists, please consider uploading a sample scribus file (collected for output with the font in use) and the pdf you have generated from it.

ciao
a.l.e
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Installation and Setup / Re: No generate print preview on xubuntu 18.04
« Last post by a.l.e on June 12, 2018, 11:09:26 am »
may i ask you what are you using the print preview for?

the tool you are looking at is not a print preview (despite its name) .

the print preview most people are looking for is:

view > preview mode (alt-ctrl-p)


on the other side, if ghostscript is installed through your package manager, i don't see a reason why scribus would not recognize it... strange.
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