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Beginner Talk / Re: Advice for Newbie on printing and PDF outputs inc CMYK
« Last post by mnawij on November 15, 2017, 01:36:31 am »
Welcome,

Question 1: Same Scribus Document, different .pdf choices on export.
General Tab:
For Print - Compression=Lossless, Compression Quality=Maximum
For Web - Compression=Lossy, Compression Quality=Whichever level keeps you under 10mb requirement
Fonts Tab:
For Print - Outline
For Web - Embed/Subset if the fonts allow
Color Tab:
For Print - Output intended=Printer
For Web - Output intended=Screen/Web
Prepress Tab:
For Print Only, if you have questions on this tab please just ask.

Question 2: I would avoid color management unless your printer specifically asks for it.  It is not usually necessary in this day and age, especially if printed on digital presses these days.

These are just my suggestions, others might add or subtract.

mnawij
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Beginner Talk / Advice for Newbie on printing and PDF outputs inc CMYK
« Last post by veronicathecow on November 15, 2017, 12:48:58 am »
Hi, this is my first post here.
I have been watching lots of youtube vids and playing with scribus and have a fair bit of the basics down okay.
It looks like I will be taking on the production of a 44 page magazine for a charity and would like to use scribus for the whole thing (currently it's done with a mix of LibreOffice and scribus)
The output has to be in two formats. A printed edition (sent off to a professional printers with a print run of about 500 magazines) and a downloadable PDF of around 10Mb
If anyone can point me towards some info or make recommendations on the following two points it would be much appreciated.
1. What would be the easiest way to produce the two outputs
2. CMYK, really struggling to get my head around that, anyone point me to some useful videos please? (  I have installed the Acrobat icc files UK based so I believe FOGRA39 is the one to use)
Many thanks, Tony
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garry, you got it mostly right but there are a few things that are a bit off:

- the developers do apply fixes to the stable branch. if the bug is in both, there are chances that it's a part of code that has not changed much.
- but they do not port features to the stable branch (with a few exceptions, like in the pdf export)

on top of it, some points that are slightly more "points of view":

- more and more people are using the development version since it's simply better. the team itself encourages to use it for production (personally, i prefer if people first start with the stable one and only switch if they know that they need something better).
- there are parts that should not be touched (footnotes...) but, in general, the  development version is rather solid. undo with care.
- there should be a bigger "breakage" soon with the work on the UI... but knowing how the scribus development works, it does not hurry and -- finally -- it will probably be rather smooth.

all in all, if in doubt, use the stable version.
if you think that you know what you're doing, you're welcome to use the development version. you're not alone and you'll get support for it!
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Beginner Talk / Re: Pictures were visible, now only picture box with image name!?
« Last post by dezcat on November 14, 2017, 05:25:36 pm »
ah...makes perfect sense..thank you!
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Beginner Talk / Re: Pictures were visible, now only picture box with image name!?
« Last post by GarryP on November 14, 2017, 05:14:26 pm »
The most usual cause of this is when you have moved either the images or SLA. Doing so destroys the relative link between the SLA and the images.
If this is what has happened you need to right-click on each image frame that is showing the name of the file and choose "Get Image..." from the menu. You can then locate the image again and restore the link.
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Using nightly builds of some software can be very useful, especially if they include security updates. (Come to think of it, there was a point when using Firefox felt like using a nightly build as updates were made at a surprising pace.)

Unfortunately, because of the way the developers are working, Scribus doesn't quite fit that scenario. Most other software is maintained in a way that small updates including bug fixes and extra features can be drip-fed to the users without much hassle to the average user. This means that bug fixes and new features can easily be checked and tested in a smooth process and most people aren't even aware that there was a problem in the first place.

With Scribus, on the other hand, there have been no updates or bug fixes to the stable version for nearly two years. The current developmental version is now so different to the stable version that they are - essentially - two different bits of software. The developers are so far along their own path that they cannot now apply fixes to problems in the stable version of their own software, even when they know how to fix them. In my opinion, a bizarre situation.

Some people get along fine with the developmental version but they are usually people who have been using Scribus for many years and know exactly how it's supposed to work and already know how to get round any problems that might come up. Beginners trying to use any of the developmental versions will probably have a harder time of things than if they use the stable version.

People have a choice of which version to use:
* Stable - nearly two years old but a large user-base to get help from;
* Developmental - as up-to-date as you want but some (largely unspecified) features might not work.

Do you use software where the bugs are known but workarounds have already been figured out, or do you use software where the bugs are unknown and you have no way of knowing when/if they'll be fixed? "You don't pays your money but you still takes your choice."
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Beginner Talk / Pictures were visible, now only picture box with image name!?
« Last post by dezcat on November 14, 2017, 04:59:17 pm »
My images are set to be visible at normal resolution..why suddenly is scribus only showing picture boxes with the name of the picture file in place of the actual picture?

Is scribus trying to help me in some way?

Everything is set to show images...all images on same layer, layer set to visible. Some images are showing, have same settings. Confusing!

Thank you!
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Good to know, thank you for writing that, and duly noted!

 :)
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I have used daily/nightly builds of other software titles without issue in the past...things like browsers...Camino used to have a nightly build and I remember being all tingly thinking I was getting the latest browser, straight from the spigot!

Another app is "Affinity Designer," and while not all of the experimental features worked correctly, the software itself was very well-behaved overall. Blender is another title whose daily builds were pretty well-behaved, even if all the tools didn't quite work.

Seems like the daily build of Scribus might be meant more for people who are developers themselves, not regular guys like me wanting production-ready software, which is fine..I'm grateful that there is such a thing as Scribus and the more I use it, the more impressed I am with it.

I've embraced it at work and using it for mission-critical design work.

Thank you for posing those questions about my scenario...I'm a big fan of the methodical approach to computer woes!
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Text and Typography / Re: Font Substitution error @ launch
« Last post by dezcat on November 14, 2017, 03:11:43 pm »
It's good to know that you've managed to get something sorted.
Thanks for telling us as it helps when other people have the same problem.
It's a shame that you had to start from scratch but that's sometimes the best solution.

P.S. I think Scribus defaults to Arial as it's one of the "web-safe fonts" that most people expect to be installed everywhere.

Yes, I am grateful not only to have found a solution but to be able to help others...it's one of those things about computing that I visualize as having toilet paper stuck to the shoe.

It is curious though, that, upon launching, Scribus wouldn't have "sniffed out" that Arial was not present, and simply let go of it, so Arial must be more important to Scribus than just some font you can pick.

I remember having an experience paring down fonts in Mac OS..fonts I never used and would never dream of using, even as the system font - how folders and menus would appear in Mac OS.

Well, suddenly my browser flipped out and instead of human-readable characters, web pages would load looking like they'd been written in Klingon. The browser was looking for - and unable to find - the fonts it needed to correctly render web pages, even though the font *I* had stipulated was not the missing one. I think it was one of those under-the-hood requirements of the browsers..

The fix was neither easy nor risk-free and IIRC, I ended up doing a re-install.

Yikes!
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