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User Interface / Re: Behavior of page up / down
« Last post by utnik on April 21, 2017, 04:38:03 pm »
good idea! – you could suggest this on as a feature request.
(summarize it as short and as precise as possible…)

Beginner Talk / Re: creating booklet
« Last post by GarryP on April 21, 2017, 04:20:03 pm »
You are welcome.

I do not keep up with the forum as much as I used to - sometimes I don't log in for days - but if you ask a question you will normally get an answer within a day or two. For new questions it is better to start a new thread. This keeps things organised and makes it easier for other people to find the information.

People who do not have Scribus installed cannot open the Scribus SLA files but anyone with a PDF reader can view the exported output. (To be more exact, anyone can open an SLA file in a text editor but they will not be able to see what the document looks like.)

If you want other people to be able to open your SLA - with Scribus - you should use the "File -> Collect For Output" function. This function makes a new folder containing copies of the SLA and all of the fonts and images you have used in the SLA. You can then ZIP the folder and send it to anyone you wish. If you share only the SLA itself, images and fonts are not included with it.
Layout Issues / Re: Figure overflow in gutter margin
« Last post by utnik on April 21, 2017, 04:16:58 pm »
hi poopje

i think, garry's solution didn't hit exactly your problem…

if you need inner bleeds (on the binding edge), you either have this overlapping (good for double sided items…), or you separate your pages by a vertical gap of at least twice the bleed width ('file' → 'document setup' → 'display' → 'general' → 'gaps between pages').
unfortunately scribus can't handle both things (overlapping items and separate bleed areas) in the same file.

User Interface / Behavior of page up / down
« Last post by Interfacetestedbychildren on April 21, 2017, 04:11:51 pm »
Page up / Down is a great way to compare Pages/Spread

It would be supercool when there would be an option
to always jump between the exact same sector currently zoomed in on,
across the different spreads (pages)

Or to say it with a more visual example.
Like if you would focus at specific part of an film trough a magifier glas
and toggle between the single images with page up - down.

This would make it easy
to detect misalignments in titles or general rhythm.
And personally would i wold feel more in control
of my selection of the sector I currently want to view.

Currently the behavior jumps
so the top of a page alignes with the top lineal
and dependent on which page is selected on a double page spread
it alignes the left or the right border of the page
to the border of the view window.

Also the pages slightly move up down with every page down /up jump
which results in an a minor imprecision.

This is still better than InD does handle this behavior 
which is jumping kind of randomly
always causing a counteraction / course correction
unless you see it as a kind of randomized control tool. ;)

So thanks for making it better in the first place!

and I would be really delighted if someone
could push it to the even greater level of awesome(ImhO ;-) )
described at the start and make it an option. ;D

Beginner Talk / Re: creating booklet
« Last post by m s narayanan on April 21, 2017, 03:02:20 pm »
dear sir
Thank you very much for your detailed post.
I shall follow the methods suggested by you.
Once I complete the project i shall intimate you.
If i face any problem i may seek your assistance.

One more doubt - can anybody open the file if sent to others who may not have scribus software in their computers.
Thank you very much.
Layout Issues / Re: Figure overflow in gutter margin
« Last post by GarryP on April 21, 2017, 02:58:52 pm »
Sorry, I thought that would have worked. You probably explained it well enough but I just didn't cotton onto what was happening.

I've just checked and you're correct that the stuff in the bleed area does indeed seem to go missing on export to PDF (this can also be seen in preview mode).

I think what you need to do is, when you export to PDF, go to the Pre Press tab and put a check mark in the "Use Document Bleeds" box (I have no idea why you would set bleeds and then, by default, Scribus would not use them).

See the attached files where an image has been placed across two pages.

Document-2-bleeds.pdf uses the document bleeds and Document-2-no-bleeds.pdf does not. (The magenta line shows the right-hand edge of the left bleed area of the right-hand page.)

And for what you need - I think - Document-2-bleeds-right-only.pdf shows where the image only goes into the bleed area of the right-hand page (you need to manually move the left-hand edge because Scribus can't snap to the bleed area).

If that doesn't fix it then I'm beyond my limited bleeds experience but someone who uses them on a day-to-day basis should be able to help you better.
Layout Issues / Re: Figure overflow in gutter margin
« Last post by poopje on April 21, 2017, 12:53:47 pm »
Sorry for not explaining well enough. Indeed, when you make the image smaller it will no longer show on the left page (although still in the bleeding margin), but unfortunately this also results in the figure not being present in the bleeding margin on the right side (see, situation 2).

What I would like is that the figure is in the bleeding margin on the right page, but not present at all on the left page (not even the bleeding margin). See situation 4 in following figure:

Would this be possible?
Layout Issues / Re: Figure overflow in gutter margin
« Last post by GarryP on April 21, 2017, 12:25:36 pm »
The easiest way I can think of to do what you want is to set the image frame to "Free Scaling" (Image tab in the Properties Palette) and drag the left side of the frame to the right so that the image no longer shows on the other page.

That's usually all that is necessary but if that's not suitable for your needs then say so and we can discuss more sophisticated methods. (I might not have properly understood your exact needs.)
Layout Issues / Re: no colors shown under fill color properties
« Last post by GarryP on April 21, 2017, 12:14:55 pm »
Just to expand on what CGood said above, the "Line" and "Colour" tabs of the Properties Palette are connected to the frame (or shape) while the "Colour & Effects" area of the Text tab of the Properties Palette is concerned with the text within a text frame. It's an easy mistake to confuse the two.

The colours defined in Scribus should be available anywhere you can select a colour. There is no distinction between line and fill colours, there are just colours that can be used. If you can select more colours from one tool than you can from another tool in the same document then that may be a bug but more information will be needed to sort it out. (There may be cases where this is allowed but I can't think of any off the top of my head.)

One extra thing: Don't use a text frame if you just want a coloured shape. Use a shape instead. Using a text frame for a coloured shape is possible - and it works - but it's using the wrong thing for the job. When you come to export the document you will get a message from the Pre-Flight Verifier saying that the text frame is empty. This may cause you extra time and hassle trying to find out what is wrong.
Layout Issues / Figure overflow in gutter margin
« Last post by poopje on April 21, 2017, 12:13:39 pm »
I'm currently working on the layout of my thesis. On every chapter page (right page) I have a figure in the left bottom corner.

I would like this figure to overlow in the gutter margin (into the bleeding margin) of the right page, but not be present in the margin of the left page. Is this possible? I'm aware that for printing this is not important, but I would also like the PDF to be clean for digital reading.

Below is what I tried (see figure):
1. placed the figure before the margin: the whole figure stays within the margins, but you will see white page after printing
2. placed figure on the center line (0cm): figure is cropped at cutting margin, no overflow into the bleeding margin, but appears again on the left page
3. placed figure at -1cm. Now the figure overlflows in the bleeding margin, but ofcourse too much is on the left page.

Any suggestions what I could do?

Thank you!

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