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Beginner Talk / Re: nudging
« Last post by a.l.e on September 12, 2018, 09:58:56 am »
on the one side the shortcuts normally do work!
no idea what is happening on your case, since you don't give any details on the shortcuts you've been trying.

for the (saner) metric world, the hint for more control is to use mm instead of cm...
take with your representative if you want your country to move into the modern times : - )
Windows / Re: windows system requirements? speed it up?
« Last post by a.l.e on September 12, 2018, 09:55:15 am »
(if you want to test if the vector graphics are the culprits: make a copy of your .sla and open it (make sure that you don't open the original); delete all or most of the graphics and see if the speed improves)
Windows / Re: windows system requirements? speed it up?
« Last post by a.l.e on September 12, 2018, 09:53:47 am »
are the other programs snappy?
if not, the problem is with something using your computer behind the scenes (multiple antivirus, helper tools for your devices fighting each other, search improvers...)

but: lot of vector graphics might be the issue... for now, all you can do: convert the graphics to bitmaps before importing into scribus...
Beginner Talk / Re: nudging
« Last post by Rose on September 12, 2018, 09:12:44 am »
veronicathecow - I'll post details here when I find out how to do it! Good to know it's possible.

dragonfly - That's useful. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. However it doesn't change the nudge values.

Windows / windows system requirements? speed it up?
« Last post by Rose on September 12, 2018, 09:02:46 am »
I can't find the windows system requirements on Are they posted anywhere?

Scribus works great on my laptop but it's very slow. For instance, there's a 3-seconds delay between selecting something and seeing it selected with the bounding box.

I'm using win 7 Home, 64bit, intel celeron 2.2 GHz, RAM 2GB.
Lots of vector graphics.

Is there any way to speed it up?
Features / Re: Suggestion: a good start for footnotes Insert > Char > Footnote#
« Last post by jack_cat on September 12, 2018, 06:08:26 am »
"Install the theme atom-material-ui"
I have done this and been through its settings. Only I cannot find a setting for the font color, which is almost too pale to read.

Now, in Atom, there is a brief message that flashes up (and then disappears) when I open Atom, saying something about a database. If I click on this I get a flag that says: Local database already found! Are you sure you want to lose it?
Now, I don't know anything about a local database... but I hesitate to click through such a warning message until I know what is going on.

Project viewer is installed. I have not yet done anything with it - it says "no projects". What is the first thing I should do with it?
I did not find svg-viewer. I installed svg-preview, which works.
Thank you for telling me how to set the switch for lilypond-compile to make svg.
I used lilypond-compile to generate an svg and viewed it with svg-preview.
Lilypond's svg files have an added benefit I had not anticipated: you can open them with Inkscape and move every object around to suit, thus it offers a great deal of tweakability even for newbies, although this is an extra step which should probably be unnecessary because the Lilypond language is supposed to be very precise although with many complexities. However, it offers a welcome alternative to trying to tweak the code to get some precise result, in a pinch (which I can certainly imagine), and it beats cutting and pasting in Gimp.

Given your example and instruction so far, I am pretty sure that I will have no trouble generating short documents containing md text and music notation.

Re: Helmholtz vs SPN pitch notation - this is not an issue. I was just expressing myself. Helmholtz notation is harder to read when there are 3 or 4 diacritical marks as in c'''' . Middle C = SPN C4 = Helmholtz c', but Lilypond uses the numbers 1-2-4-8 as note-attributes for time-duration values instead. The octaves of both pitch notation systems begin with C at the bottom and B at the top, instead of starting with A as might be thought logical, and have a direct correspondence, not like lunar & solar calendars. No conversion table is necessary because they are both easy to memorize, SPN being a little more obvious.

Features / Re: Suggestion: a good start for footnotes Insert > Char > Footnote#
« Last post by dragonfly on September 12, 2018, 12:28:39 am »

I forgot to write that there is another way of previewing SVG produced by lilycompile.
In the /tmp folder which is created (containing score.pdf or score.svg) create a blank file

In this file simply write:

@import "score.svg"

and you can preview the compiled score compiled as SVG (not PDF). Note that you cannot easily import PDF in the same way so this is why I recommend lilycompile settings File Type: be set to SVG.
Do focus on studying project-viewer Features since you can create multiple "virtual projects". For example I downloaded the LilyPond Snippets Respository files and placed these snippets in a local folder:


Features / Re: Suggestion: a good start for footnotes Insert > Char > Footnote#
« Last post by dragonfly on September 12, 2018, 12:14:57 am »
I understand that learning a new framework is a significant step.  I will only add that terms such as Helmholtz pitch notation  and Scientific Pitch Notation are double Dutch to me. My last efforts at writing music on a computer was very early in my career when, supporting a hi-fi expert, I wrote such a program. In those days the compiler was installed from paper tape and a crude notation language generated bitstream to drive a prototype digital to analogue converter to make crude musical tones.

Now many years later I am learning about LilyPond and also MusicXML.

I find that scores have much in common with mathematical expressions written in LaTeX notation.

There is also the linking of mathematics and music I have read.

By coincidence your music project challenge has proven to be an excellent example to shakedown the Atom framework I have drawn together.

Considering your task at hand I would suggest considering three parallel workflows.

First, I suggest carry on using Scribus as you have in the past.

Second, I suggest having a workflow to learn more about Atom and how it can be used to compile LilyPond scripts to create assets.  Keep Scribus out of this experiment for now.  You can always manually import into Scribus assets created by this workflow.

Third, in the longer term when I have finished my work developing Atom to Scribus pipe you can try that.

Returning to the second option, the Atom framework, I have tried a number of packages to optimise the workflow and have homed in on those required for LilyPond. I have also learned how to easily convert LilyPond scripts to musicxml format.

There are converters which convert document formats to other formats. See Pandoc.
There are converters which convert file types to others.
Similarly there are converters for converting music notations.

Here is one addressing the problem you posed.

I will go back through my earlier writing and draw a red line through packages which have been replaced by better packages, after testing.

It is very easy to inspect the inventory of Atom packages already installed. Just run the command:

Code: [Select]
apm list
Some words of immediate advice regarding Atom usage:

Install the theme atom-material-ui
install the package project-viewer   (not project-manager)
install the package svg-viewer svg-preview

Now assuming that you have installed the packages AtLilyPond and lilycompile
navigate to lilycompile package settings and change the File Type: from default PDF to SVG.

It is then easier to embed an SVG file into markdown using the @import statement.
So in short switch from PDF to SVG output from lilycompile.

Just to give you some encouragement, attached is a short clip showing merge of text and music score.

And there is no need to play with git just yet. Stay local.
Features / Re: Suggestion: a good start for footnotes Insert > Char > Footnote#
« Last post by jack_cat on September 11, 2018, 10:40:21 pm »
Failed to install tidy-markdown because Git was not found.
The tidy-markdown package has module dependencies that cannot be installed without Git.
You need to install Git and add it to your path environment variable in order to install this package.
You can install Git by downloading, installing, and launching GitHub for Windows:
Run apm -v after installing Git to see what version has been detected.

I have installed GitHub and it has written itself into the PATH, but I still get this error when installing tidy-markdown.
I don't need tidy-markdown yet so this is not yet an obstacle.

As far as Scrivener and Cherry Tree, I will put those suggestions aside for now; I have enough on my plate.

Now the good news: I have installed Lilypond, created a file from inside Atom, and compiled it to a PDF
using lilypond-compile from within Atom, and using Atom package pdf-view, can see the file inside Atom. This is
all a major step forward. (This required that I put Lilypond in the PATH myself and restart.)

The routine which I now wish to master is to create a file with some text and a footnote in it, along with a musical example, merge these two files and push them to Scribus while stripping out the footnote to another file which will eventually go into the file and be pushed to another Scribus file.

However, I don't know how to do all this yet. So, for the moment, I am going to work a little on learning Lilypond.
Beginner Talk / Re: Somehow I seems to have locked everything.
« Last post by mihxil on September 11, 2018, 09:14:27 pm »

and, the fact that preview mode gets lost on a restart of scribus (not an update) is a request i've made... for cases like yours : - )

Thanks a lot. I agree with this bug, and I must say that I was a bit baffled too by the fact that preview-mode was stored in the sla (though I supposed that it could have been some config-file in ~ or so too) I'm glad it will be fixed.

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