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there's no text flow around an image, when the text is on top of the image.
 always keep text on a lower level (even on the same layer) than the objects it should flow around… 
Problems with text flow around image.  (Scribus 1.4.7 on Windows 7) - new user

Hello, and apologies if this is a FAQ.

I'm almost embarrassed to be posting this question, because up till last night, I thought I had this sussed out.
I learned how to flow text round a complicated shaped image through Kevin Pugh's (old but v.good) Youtube tutorials, if you know them (he was using an older Scribus, but still basically ok)

I'd successfully flowed my text around a "circular" image, and was feeling quite proud of myself.

However, I then wanted to  produce a 2-sided "flyer" version of the A4 poster I'd just created, adding a bit more info and different photos.

The photos were square, and I assumed it would be a piece of cake to get the text to flow around them, and was surprised when it wasn't. The images happen to be "transparent" .png's, but I don't think it's the transparency that can be causing the problem. I tried all 3 options in the "shape" menu for the image, i.e. frame, bounding box, and contour, but none of them worked. The text just went behind the image, semi-visible because of the transparency, but obviously not the effect I was going for.

For the time being, as I needed the flyers PDQ, I've just separated the images from the text, which is "ok", but not as neat looking as I'd hoped for.

Are there any obvious things I could be missing here?
Did I need to link or group the image to the text? I don't remember doing that in my previous (successful) attempt at this kind of thing (though my memory could be faulty).

I should say that at first, I had the text and the images on different levels. (EDIT: I mean "layers"!)
I tried moving them to the same level, but it didn't change the effect I was seeing. (EDIT: "layers" here too).

I should say that I've found Scribus pretty good, as a new user, although it was a bit of a steep learning curve (but the learning curve for GIMP was even steeper - I had to learn that more or less at the same time, to figure out transparent images).

BTW, I notice people seem to talk a lot about the 1.5.x versions of Scribus. As a new user, I thought I'd be better off with a "stable" version. Would it be worth trying a  development version?

(Just had a quick look at the download page, and I see it's possible to have 1.4.x and 1.5.x installed in parallel - sounds like it might be worth trying that).

Thanks in advance for any ideas, thoughts, suggestions.   :-)

Beginner Talk / Re: Default View when opening File
« Last post by utnik on June 19, 2018, 07:01:22 am »
OK, but may I make it a feature request?

why not? – if the devs like the idea, it shouldn't be hard to implement… 

Text and Typography / Re: Font Substitution error @ launch
« Last post by Fergus Magus on June 19, 2018, 06:00:21 am »
Under openSUSE I had the same problem. Even though I specified a replacement font and ticked the remember box, it was never remembered. The Ubuntu hint above was the answer, in openSUSE, install fetchmsttfonts, which downloads a bunch of MS fonts, including Arial.

This must be buried deep inside the code, as Arial is not mentioned anywhere in the preferences, and is not used by the default styles.
General Discussion / Re: Scribus in a workflow? (text issues)
« Last post by FairMiles on June 19, 2018, 02:57:16 am »
Some conclusions.

* If (paragraph+character) styles must/should be applied to text in a word processor (such as LO Writer) before importing it, then Scribus may become redundant, or even a complication (compare Workflows C and D in previous posts). In any case, if that is the proper workflow path according to Scribus, then it should at least be able to import correctly the formatted text. That is not the case, particularly for character styles.

* Though LO Writer can handle the design of publications (see  and I think it is (still?) not a proper DTP because of its limitations to handle (more complex) layouts: a full document made of independent+linked frames (à la Scribus) is probably a bad long-term idea. But neither is Scribus a proper DTP if it cannot easily handle (formatted) text or apply very relevant features for adequate typography (hyphenation, multilingual dictionaries, captions, text tables…). I guess the relative weight in a project between graphics+layout vs. text may heavily influence the pros/cons balance of the different approaches by these tools. [I guess Scribus may also tradeoff pros&cons against drawing tools such as Inkscape or LO Draw if the project is too graphics-heavy, but that discussion is for another thread]

* I'm no programmer nor I know the structure of Scribus, but I guess that in general it may benefit from trying to better integrate/complement with other (existing, popular, open source) tools and projects. From what I have explored, recognizing and applying subordinate/relative character styles (as apparently handled, though not clearly documented, by LO writer) and facilitating the application of paragraph styles may be first important steps to solve some of its current limitations.

I think the current status of Scribus makes it no good tool to include it within a workflow that depends on (partially) formatted imported text. Even more, some important details in the way styles are defined and applied within Scribus make it not particularly well fitted for works that heavily depend on text even when not already formatted.

I really hope Scribus can someday become the mature tool I expected when I started this exploration.
General Discussion / Re: Scribus in a workflow? (text issues)
« Last post by FairMiles on June 19, 2018, 01:22:49 am »
Part 4 (last)

Workflow D: LibreOffice Template & Styles: do I need Scribus?

2 - [same as Workflow C] Document opened/imported in LibreOffice Writer, styles imported from Writer template (see below), direct formatting replaced by Character Styles with Find+Replace [e.g. (a) search all instances of Format=italic, (b) remove direct formatting for selection, (c) apply "Emphasis" character style], remove direct formatting for all text [does not remove applied character styles], Paragraph Styles applied, saved as .odt. [example: MStest_C.odt]

3 - Template in LibreOffice Writer with default page style + 2-column section for main text, frame styles to position typical illustrations (single-column width, full width, etc), paragraph/character styles, header and formatted dummy text [example: Hornero_Artí]

4 - Text copied+pasted to a new document based on template [New|Templates]. Imported images, tables into frames, referable semi-automatic captions, "relative" character styles for ad-hoc formatting (e.g. "Emphasis" to apply [only] italics to ANY paragraph styles), spell check and automatic (configurable) hyphenation [example: MStest_D.odt]. PDF export.
      -> Frames are not so easy to handle in a 2-column layout; their positioning and sizing is not as confortable (trustable?) as in a "true DTP" (afaik). Frames and sometimes colums and paragraphs need some fiddling with custom (not-styled) parameters. Still, everything seems to work.

5 - No Scribus (maybe for the cover?)
Beginner Talk / Re: Default View when opening File
« Last post by Ged on June 18, 2018, 10:26:03 pm »
OK, but may I make it a feature request?

Thanks; I dont use Scribus a lot, but it sure is a fine app!
Beginner Talk / Re: Default View when opening File
« Last post by utnik on June 18, 2018, 01:38:33 pm »
hi ged
…Is there somewhere in my preferences that can be set so that it opens in 'Fit to Height' ?

i don't think so. but there's a keyboard shortcut for 'fit to hight' ('ctrl' + '0' or 'cmd' + '0' if you're on a mac…) 
Beginner Talk / Default View when opening File
« Last post by Ged on June 18, 2018, 11:26:03 am »
Hi, a small request please.   :)  When I open my file it always opens in zoom size 100%.  Is there somewhere in my preferences that can be set so that it opens in 'Fit to Height' ?
Beginner Talk / Re: Only first letter of each line visible
« Last post by Nermander on June 17, 2018, 11:30:03 am »
I open a PDF file with Scribus and in Scribus the text isn't shown. I can only see the first letter of each line. So I definitively haven't WYSIWYG!

Scribus is not really intended to edits PDF's (although in newer versions there are some editing possibilities).
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