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PDF Generation / Re: Embed Font gets Outlined
« Last post by jghali on June 20, 2017, 10:48:49 pm »

Scribus 1.4.x generally outline fonts by generating PostScript Type 3 font subsets. To do so with TrueType fonts, a specific table is required: the 'post' table which contains the PostScript name of each glyph in the font. This table is optional and in the case of Roboto is missing. As a consequence we cannot generate a Type 3 subset for that font and have to take a more aggressive approach: convert the text using Roboto entirely to vectors. The font will be consequently not visible in Acrobat Document Properties.

Note that PDF specifications advise against TrueType fonts which lacks the Postscript glyph name tables in PDF files.
Scribus forums / Re: Moving the forums to discourse
« Last post by a.l.e on June 20, 2017, 04:55:37 pm »
not so long ago crossed my way.

- it's php based (so it won't be a problem to support on the scribus site (since currently everything is php there)
- looks amazing
- and it's the continuation of two of the lead existing forums

it's still beta, but we could try to setup an instance and see if we can import the forums history...
PDF Generation / Re: Embed Font gets Outlined
« Last post by GarryP on June 20, 2017, 03:42:27 pm »
(Oh, when can we have better forum software?,2328.0.html) These should be the last attachments for my previous post...
PDF Generation / Re: Embed Font gets Outlined
« Last post by GarryP on June 20, 2017, 03:38:53 pm »
After having to wait more than 60 seconds to re-post (understandable but a tad annoying): Extra attachments...
PDF Generation / Re: Embed Font gets Outlined
« Last post by GarryP on June 20, 2017, 03:35:56 pm »
Wecome to the forum Xaphedo.

I've just done a quick check - on WIndows 10 with Scribus 1.4.6 - on a document containing three text frames, formatted in:
* Roboto Medium - True Type - Embeddable;
* Dosis Medium - True Type - Embeddable;
* Open Sans Regular - True Type - Editable.

Exporting to PDF, the dialog I get after pressing the "Embed All" button is shown in CaptureExport.PNG
Both Roboto Medium and Dosis Medium are set to be outlined which seems odd because they should be embeddable.
(See here for more information.)

After export (Document-1.pdf) and reading in Acrobat Reader DC I get the properties seen in CaptureAcrobat1.PNG
One of the fonts - probably Dosis Medium - seems to have been converted to a Type 3 (Postscript) font, which doesn't sound right to me (see below).
The Roboto Medium text cannot be selected but the Dosis Medium and Open Sans Regular text can be selectable.

Going back to the document and the export dialog I pressed the Embed All button again, then selected Dosis Medium, pressed the "Up Arrow" (to move the font from Outlined to Embedded) and then selected Roboto Medium and pressed the "Up Arrow" to end up with the dialog as shown in CaptureExportMissing.PNG. One font to embed, no fonts to outline, which seems wrong to me.

[Forum restrictions mean that I have to split attachments on multiple posts from this point.]

After export (Document-1a.pdf) and reading in Acrobat Reader DC I get the properties seen in CaptureAcrobat2.PNG
Now I have the situation where Dosis Medium and Open Sans Regular seem to be embedded properly - but note that Open Sans is missing the Actual Font information - but there's still no Roboto.

Doing a similar thing as above but also removing Open Sans Regular from the list of embedded fonts - CaptureExportNoFonts.PNG - gives me Document-1c.pdf and CaptureAcrobat3.PNG. Something strange is happening here.

I have a feeling that Scribus isn't showing users the full story of what it's doing with fonts.
Because of this it's difficult to diagnose what's going on with the Roboto font. It's supposed to be embeddable but Scribus isn't embedding it for some reason and it's not telling the user why.

Maybe one of the font experts in the forum can help more.
Beginner Talk / Re: Printing
« Last post by a.l.e on June 19, 2017, 07:57:08 pm »
i got the .pdf and .sla

i could view and print the pdf without any issue.

you should take care, that the pdf is printed at 100%...
PDF Generation / Embed Font gets Outlined
« Last post by Xaphedo on June 19, 2017, 07:43:23 pm »

When exporting my scribus file into a PDF one of the two fonts doesn't actually get Embedded, but Outlined.

In "Export" -> "Save as PDF" -> "Fonts" -> "Fonts to embed" I have both fonts, while "Fonts to outline" is completely empty. I'm not sure what's going on.

Once I export the PDF I can't select the text using the font in the reader, it's not listed in the embedded fonts in the file's properties, and it's definitely outlined (I checked via Inkscape). I can select the text which is using the other font though, which is embedded as it's supposed to be.

Any ideas? I've already looked around, and there doesn't seem to be any clear precedent to this :(
Beginner Talk / Re: Initial document feedback
« Last post by GarryP on June 19, 2017, 03:06:23 pm »
You're welcome Rupert. I look forward to seeing the next version. If it's used for something other than just your own experimentation/practice then maybe it could be added to the Success Stories on the Wiki.

As for the text justification, if you're replicating an existing format then, by all means, just do what they do. There is no right or wrong way but I thought it might look more fitting to the subject matter if it was justified.

Justification generally shouldn't be used by itself; as you have seen it usually makes quite a mess. (And I can't see any good reason for using forced justification which looks even worse.) You should only use justification in conjunction with hyphenation - manual or otherwise - and probably some manual typesetting which is the thing that takes some practice to get looking good. Good typesetting is, after all, an art.
Free discussion / Re: This Forum
« Last post by GarryP on June 19, 2017, 02:27:05 pm »
I understand a.l.e.

All I was trying to do is give people some reasons for joining up.

Once someone registers a lot of extra possibilities opens up for them, if they want to take advantage.

P.S. I agree that just saying hello is nice and all but it's not particularly useful to other users. It's nice to hear from new users but I would much prefer to help them with something rather than just say hello back. (Also, I'd really like to see more new stuff in the Showcase area; there hasn't been much recently.)
Beginner Talk / Re: Printing
« Last post by a.l.e on June 19, 2017, 10:26:33 am »
hi map

you can put the link in here if it's ok to make the document available to everyone.

you can send me a private message through the forums by clicking on my name below the title of each post.

or you can send me an email to
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