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PDF Generation / Re: problems with faded CMYK color
« Last post by mnawij on July 19, 2017, 10:47:15 pm »
I agree with Nermander, I hard proof and have the customer sign it before I go to print on any order over $500.00 and I soft proof (email pdf) for the customer to sign off on any other order.

flomman, the software the printer puts it through is call a RIP (raster image processor) and unless they have that set up to accept web coated SWOP it will strip the color profile and read the actual CMYK values of the artwork.  Also web coated I believe is the default when the Adobe Suite is installed, but I am not 100% sure, if your printer has that, they might have never changed it from the default setting and do not have color management setup in there print shop.  I wish I could help you more on this, but I do not use color management with my Scribus files and they have printed just fine and I would say that I have printed over 200 of them.  I set up a church and another not for profit with Scribus to do their own artwork and did not setup color management and have had no problems printing for them.

mnawij
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PDF Generation / Re: problems with faded CMYK color
« Last post by flomman on July 19, 2017, 09:14:18 pm »
Hey, thanks for the reply Nermander.  I understand the deficiencies of viewing color in RGB on a montior.  What I can't understand is that when using Windows/InDesign, what I produced on the screen was what I got in the pdf, which in turn was what I got from the printer.  Using Scribus it seems that it is impossible to take what is on the screen (without color management enabled) and have it export to pdf looking pretty much the same.  With Color Management enabled, I can't even chose the colors I want from the palette.   I'll send a copy to the printer tomorrow and see how it comes out.
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Text and Typography / Re: Clipping and skewing text
« Last post by eudoxos on July 19, 2017, 08:09:30 pm »
>> the clipping should cut some letters, so not enough to make text shorter
Imagine a word which is vertically cut so that only lower parts of letters are visible. If this is not possible, it means the UI does not expose it, since cairo does have the capability of clipping any object (including text). What I finally did was to import SVG with white-out shapes and stick the text lower than the SVG. Not terribly elegant but works.
> via menu "Item -> Transform"
Yes, I tried that but it transforms the outline rather then the typeset result, as you say, which is both counter-intuitive (for text, at least) and not useful in this case. Some people suggested to use text on path for this, as workaround. This is for me unresolved, but I will try to do without it as the skew is not too big.

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PDF Generation / Re: problems with faded CMYK color
« Last post by Nermander on July 19, 2017, 07:38:06 pm »
When you are proofing CMYK colors the best way to check whether they are correct or not is easy: make a test print.

Color management was invented to help avoiding the need for test prints, but in lack och color management you can always fall back to test printing.

You have to realise that a monitor (using RGB pixels and additive color mixing) will not be very good at reproducing CMYK colors (with subtractive color mixing).
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PDF Generation / Re: problems with faded CMYK color
« Last post by flomman on July 19, 2017, 06:38:35 pm »
Hey Nermander, thanks for your input.

Not having a "spider", am I pretty much reduced to just trudging on with the dull colors, or else revert to Windows/InDesign?
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PDF Generation / Re: problems with faded CMYK color
« Last post by Nermander on July 19, 2017, 05:33:36 pm »
You cannot calibrate your screen with software only. You need a device that measures the color shown on the screen.

The calibration will generate a color profile for your monitor, and there are many free softwares that can do this. But all of them need a "spider" to perform the measurement.

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PDF Generation / Re: problems with faded CMYK color
« Last post by flomman on July 19, 2017, 03:54:56 pm »
Thanks mnawij for the benefit of your knowledge and experience!  I wrote to the guy I deal with at my printer and this is the reply I got:

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I think what you are looking for will be the 'US Web Coated (SWOP 2)' setting we use to save our pdf files.

When going to actual print these are then re-run through a print software for separation and we don't have an actual name or settings for it.

If you produce pdf files to the US Web Coated profile it should run thereafter to print as our own pdf files do.

So you think I need to calibrate my screen?  I've never had to do it before, but I guess I should give anything a try!  I'll try and find some software to do that.  If you have any other thoughts I'd really appreciate it! 
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Text and Typography / Re: Clipping and skewing text
« Last post by GarryP on July 19, 2017, 02:42:48 pm »
For the first of your questions, I'm not sure what you want to do. I don't understand why you would want some of the letters to go missing. If you don't want the letters then it's usual to just not add them in the first place. I know you said it was a peculiar case but is there an example you could supply that would show people what you want? Even a simple scanned hand-drawn picture might help.

The clipping path of an image is only really used to control how text flows around that image. It's like a contour line but it's part of the image file and not a Scribus thing. The 'clipping' refers to the image rather than the text.

On your second question, you can skew the frame - by either using the Node Editor or via menu "Item -> Transform" - but the text will not be skewed along with the frame. To skew text you will have to convert it to outlines and then skew the resulting shapes. Unfortunately you won't be able to edit the text after converting to outlines so keep a backup of the original text if you need to try different things.

If you are experimenting then it might be good to put that specific piece of text into Inkscape first and then export different manipulated versions into Scribus until you get what you want but Scribus has plenty of vector tools so that's not usually necessary. Use whichever workflow is best for you.
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Beginner Talk / Re: Flip pages horizontally
« Last post by m s narayanan on July 19, 2017, 01:23:18 pm »
Dear sir
The idea is to make reading the newsletter easy by selecting wanted page by a mere click.
It may be funny to turn around pages.
I tried converting the PDF to FTD or something like that by using flipdeveloper.  But the setback is that if I send this file to others they may not be open it unless they have installed that application.

Thanks
M S Narayanan
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Text and Typography / Clipping and skewing text
« Last post by eudoxos on July 19, 2017, 12:45:31 pm »
Hi there, in a peculiar case I would like to typeset text frame as usual, and only clip the result afterwards (the clipping should cut some letters, so not enough to make text shorter). As I understand, there is clipping path (different from contour line, which is used for text flow) only available with image frames, right? Another question is whether it is possible to skew text frame (not just rotate). In both cases I'd like the text to be editable. Otherwise I'd convert to paths and do it in inkscape. Thanks, cheers! vaclav
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