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Beginner Talk / Re: Advice for Newbie on printing and PDF outputs inc CMYK
« Last post by veronicathecow on November 16, 2017, 12:27:53 am »
Hi mnawij thanks for your reply.
Yes there is a big difference in those examples, thanks for those.
In Settings, Colour management, Rendering Intent, there are options for 
Simulate Printer on screen
&
Convert all colours to printer space.
If my ICC is set to FOGRAS39 won't this display on my monitor as an approximation of how it prints?
If that works it would save me having to convert each individual jpg to CMYK with that all being done in the save to PDF.
That way can I also produce a PDF for viewing on a screen by re-running PDF production with the RGB instead of CMYK rendering (I need to be able to produce both)
Thanks, Tony
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Installation and Setup / Re: Delete standard Printer becouse of priner margins
« Last post by mnawij on November 16, 2017, 12:17:20 am »
Hi bufu, do not click on the printer margin button, you set the margins right above that button.  That button is only if you have a specific printer that you know you are going to use and would like Scribus to set those defaults for you.  I agree it is a bit confusing.

Cheers,

mnawij
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Beginner Talk / Re: Advice for Newbie on printing and PDF outputs inc CMYK
« Last post by mnawij on November 16, 2017, 12:12:51 am »
Though Utnik is correct about Scribus converting to CMYK, I would recommend looking at the conversion with Krita beforehand, it will save color shift headaches later.  See my attachments for color shifts to get an idea what happens when you convert between the two.  I believe it is better to see the shift before converting to the pdf.

Again, unless the printer request color profiles, I would recommend against using it.  You would have to color calibrate your monitor with a calibration tool, just downloading the icc profile, while improving the screen colors does not make it the same colors that would be printed, especially with any monitor over a year old.  I understand as I am mildly Red/Green color blind so I rely on calibration and color books for accurate colors quite a bit.

mnawij
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Text and Typography / Bulleted list
« Last post by RCRalph on November 16, 2017, 12:01:59 am »
Hello,

Is it possible to create a bulleted list? I tried to do it in OpenOffice, then looked into settings etc. Is there any script/extension or anything like this to make it come true?

Of course I can do this manually, but I am so much lazy person.

Thanks for your help.
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Beginner Talk / Re: Advice for Newbie on printing and PDF outputs inc CMYK
« Last post by veronicathecow on November 15, 2017, 10:20:52 pm »
Hi utnik, thanks for your reply. I am making enquires ew Froga39 with printers.
Perceptual, cheers.
Solid colours, okay will have a play.
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Beginner Talk / Re: Advice for Newbie on printing and PDF outputs inc CMYK
« Last post by utnik on November 15, 2017, 08:58:32 pm »
hi tony

There are various Preferences for ICC profiles. Do you have any suggestions…
  • 'coated fogra39' might be ok. – but i would ask at the print shop.
  • 'absolute colorimetric' for images is a bit strange. as long as your images are photos, you should usually use 'perceptual'.
  • for solid colors, there are different options. i use mostly 'relative colorimetric' to avoid strange compressions near the edges of the printable color space. but sometimes 'absolute colorimetric' is better (i.e. in case of a color sensible logo). in really rare cases even 'perceptual' could be required to keep matching colors between an image and some graphical elements. (but then you need to know what you're doing anyway…)
utnik
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Beginner Talk / Re: Advice for Newbie on printing and PDF outputs inc CMYK
« Last post by veronicathecow on November 15, 2017, 07:40:28 pm »
Hi Nermander, thanks for your reply. That is very useful info re ghost script.
Under External Tool, Postscript interpreter, Name of Executable, = gs
Which I would guess is ghost script so it looked like it's already available.
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Beginner Talk / Re: Advice for Newbie on printing and PDF outputs inc CMYK
« Last post by Nermander on November 15, 2017, 07:26:55 pm »
and a downloadable PDF of around 10Mb

I think this will be your biggest problem. Since Scribus places each glyph separately (or at least used to), PDFs generated from Scribus tend to always end up a lot bigger than you think.

There are workarounds, like running the PDF through Ghostscript to get a smaller PDF, but the PDF you get from Scribus will most likely be a lot bigger than you wish.

This problem is so common it has its own page on the wiki
https://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Reduce_the_size_of_Scribus_generated_PDFs
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Beginner Talk / Re: Advice for Newbie on printing and PDF outputs inc CMYK
« Last post by veronicathecow on November 15, 2017, 05:05:59 pm »
Hi utnik, thanks for your reply that is useful to know.
There are various Preferences for ICC profiles. Do you have any suggestions on what I should use for them I.E.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/96540170@N02/38381083666/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/96540170@N02/37550432855/in/dateposted-public/
Thanks, Tony
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the best you can read from the developers on the status of 1.5.3: https://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/1.5.3_Release
the release notes.

concerning who is using 1.5.3: most of the people using it do so because 1.5.3 feels better than 1.4.6, even with the few very prominent awkwardness that you will notice as soon as you open it.
not because it has a higher number.

the most important (and visible and very simple) one: the dockable proprieties palette.

personally, there is one rule of thumbs i follow (and suggest other to follow): create a demo document (or small project) to test every new feature before using it in a "real" project.
if you do so, you probably won't get any (or very few) surprises.

and be ready to write bug reports when you hit one: if they are "important" they will be solved rather quickly (mostly a matter of hours).
(of course, i'm talking about bugs in part of the code that are supposed to work correctly, not the bugs in still experimental parts of code)

the boat has sailed, 1.5.3 is stable enough to be used and people are using it.
we had a very similar situation in the 1.3.x branch, long before 1.4 was released... and it's at that time that i've stopped insisting when people want to use the development version during the very long stabilization phase.

and yes, as utnik writes, if somebody goes for the development version, she should keep it update to the latest available code / release... (and keep a backup of the binaries that she knows work for her).

of course, you don't have to make the switch yourself!
but it might be healthier for yourself to often refrain from telling others not to do it...
(in my case it was even "harder", since i did make the swtich, but i was telling other people not to do it : - )
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