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hi catteau

in my experience, when people have images disappearing there are two causes:

- they don't have enough memory at disposal
- they're doing something "silly".

what you already have discovered: after having loaded an image into a scribus image frame, you're not supposed to move it or rename it.
nor move the .sla file. (but you can just rename it).

summarized: if you have not done anything in between, it's probably a memory issues... but people have very different definitions for "have done nothing"...
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Beginner Talk / Re: Trouble with "Get Text"
« Last post by GarryP on April 14, 2018, 11:24:43 am »
remadepreacher, please don't assume that moving to 1.5.x will let you get round problems that you find with 1.4.6.
1.4.6 has been around - unchanged - for more than two years and, as such, pretty much all of the problems have been seen before and workarounds are already known.
The 1.5.x versions are developmental software and, as such, each one has its own set of issues that have not yet been sorted.

My general advice is to use 1.4.6 until 1.6 comes out. If you use 1.5.x you lay yourself open to having all kinds of problems that no-one has seen before because the software hasn't been tested properly. If you have a problem with 1.4.6 you can usually get a quick fix, if you use 1.5.x you might have trouble getting an answer at all.

I realise that some people find that 1.5.x is stable for them but you never know when a developer will change/remove something without notice that will stop your documents from working. 1.5.x should only be used if absolutely necessary and only by people who know how 1.4.6 works.
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You hit the nail on the head in your first post Joy.
Scribus uses a relative path from the document to the image, rather than including the image in the SLA.
This is useful as it not only keeps the SLA size to a minimum but it also means that you can update the image outside of Scribus - which means that Scribus doesn't need to have lots of image manipulation tools in it.

Images "disappearing" from image frames usually happens when someone either moves/renames/deletes the image file or moves the SLA.
If you have not moved/deleted/renamed anything and images are still disappearing, that sounds unusual.

Are your images and SLA on the same physical hard drive?
Do you have any kind of "file/media management" software running that could be re-organising your files in the background?

When you save your SLA and come back to it, or a new version of it, what's the exact process you are using? I've a feeling that that's where the problem is but I would need to know precisely what you're doing.
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Beginner Talk / Re: Trouble with "Get Text"
« Last post by utnik on April 14, 2018, 08:58:43 am »
hi remadepreacher

i just opened your file in scribus 1.5.3, inserted 'Trouble In Paradise' between the two paragraphs and changed the paragraph style to 'heading 3' – there is no crash on my system (high sierra – the same as you use…)

either there's something wrong
  • with your scribus installation → to check this you could close scribus, and remove the directory: /users/'your user name'/library/preferences/scribus from the library or rename it to 'scribus_old' and restart scribus.
  • or with the os itself (unlikely but possible)
  • or with one of the fonts you use  → check your fonts with 'fontbook.app'. ('hk serif' was replaced in my test, but it isn't in use in the test file…)
  • or you do something strange…
as your file won't open in scribus 1.4.6 without conversion, i tested only with 1.5.3.

utnik
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A bit more info - I took some screenshots to show what's happening.  Just came back to my (saved) file after doing something else for a few minutes, found around a dozen images had disappeared.  A couple of images attached to show what I'm seeing when the images are gone.

I put them all back in, saved the file again.  But I'm sure they will keep disappearing.  Why???????
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Beginner Talk / Re: Trouble with "Get Text"
« Last post by remadepreacher on April 14, 2018, 02:23:10 am »
Thanks, Rodney Lee and a.l.e. I'll try changing the fn-f3 setting. I removed all styles and rebuilt them with no text and then saved as as template. Oddly this is not in my templates. There are a .png and XML doc with that name on the computer.

Should someone want to examine the text causing the #11 crashes, I'm attaching an .sla with the two paragraphs I've been attempting to add text as a subtitle in between. Details at the end.
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I'm creating a magazine - 24 pages total, with a fair number of images. 

I'll be working along, inserting images, saving my file very regularly.  And then suddenly some images will be gone, and in the frame where they were is the filename instead of the image.  If I save the Scribus file to a new name and reopen the previously saved version, the images are gone there, too.  Since it gives me the filenames, they are easy to reload - and when I do that, they are already scaled and sized correctly, I don't need to "adjust image to frame." 

If I try to export to a pdf from the file with missing images, it tells me they are missing - so they are really not there, it's not as if I somehow made them invisible.  Not all images in the file disappear, just a few will disappear (different ones at different times, though).

What is going on here?

I also noticed that my .sla file is around 340K, with around 13 pages completed.  When I save it to .pdf, that file is 27 megs.

So does Scribus actually only save pointers to images, not integrating the image into the file itself?  That would explain why the file is so small.  But if that is the case, it would suggest that if I move or rename an underlying image file - or delete it - my Scribus document will no longer be able to find it.

Why would my images suddenly disappear when I wasn't even working on them?  Sometimes it is images from a previous page that I haven't touched in hours. 

I'm using Scribus 1.4.6 on OSX, and this is my first time using the software, so I have lots to learn.

Thanks for any enlightenment anyone can provide!



Joy
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Beginner Talk / Re: Trouble with "Get Text"
« Last post by RodneyLee on April 13, 2018, 04:52:31 pm »
Ok, I can work more than I could, loading is now do-able. But it turns out that when I try to change styles on certain parts of the text, I still have another #11 crash, both in 1.4.6 and 1.5.3. So evidently there are still problems with the styles or fonts brought over with the .odt.

I had that problem for a bit in 1.5.3 in linux, eventually my file stopped loading, I think tried 1.5.2 and then 1.5.4 which loaded up the file, I think delete all styles (and all other steeing that effect text,TAB ETC), save and reloaded into 1.5.3 Reset TABS and nothing has crashed since.

best guess its something is off with imported text or old code embedded in text, 1.5.3 has been super stable for me
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Layout Issues / Re: Problem with text frames
« Last post by GarryP on April 13, 2018, 11:21:57 am »
You're welcome.

Don't feel too bad about not knowing about the Export function.

The whole point of Scribus is that it creates PDFs, either for printing or on-screen viewing. That's what it was created for. So why that function is relegated to a sub-menu while the much-less-used - and proven to be fallible - Print feature is more prominent in the File menu is a mystery to me.

Removing the Print feature has been discussed more than once, in this forum and elsewhere. It has also been suggested that the "Export to PDF" is moved from the sub-menu into the main File menu and renamed as something like "Publish to PDF". That seems perfectly sensible to me.

The Print feature, as it currently stands:
* is confusing for new users;
* doesn't create PDFs properly;
* has been proven not to work reliably;
* doesn't really give the user anything that other features do much better;
* makes Scribus look bad, because of the above issues;
* is extra code that needs to be maintained, so more work for the developers.

...and yet it persists. A strange situation indeed.

Anyway, I'm glad you've managed to get sorted and you can start creating PDFs and finding out all the great things you can do with Scribus.
It really is a good piece of software, even if some of the design choices are a little strange.
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Beginner Talk / Re: Trouble with "Get Text"
« Last post by a.l.e on April 13, 2018, 10:41:15 am »
please google about mac and function / media keys.

if you have not switched the default behavior for the function keys, you will have to press fn + F3 to get the text properties.
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