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Beginner Talk / Re: Initial document feedback
« Last post by CGood on May 14, 2017, 07:13:07 am »
Ruperty - my error - it seems like copying text from a pdf loses the flow of a line of text and imposes a new line. I tried copying your text from his pdf back to the sample I posted. It retained new lines even when given plenty of space to flow the text. I didn't realize but it appears to be a property of pdfs, not your particular text.
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Text and Typography / Is OpenType feature Character Variants not supported?
« Last post by southwindows on May 13, 2017, 11:47:17 pm »
I'm continuing my testing of the OT features in 1.5.3 svc.  I have three fonts that contain the OT Character Variants feature (cv01-cv20), along with others.  The other features all show up in the Text Properties/Font Features dialog, but Character Variants never does.  Is this not supported?  The CV features are for Latin and Greek scripts (nothing exotic like the historic scripts in Plane 1) so it should work.
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Beginner Talk / Re: Page Numbers Exporting as "?"
« Last post by RobSay on May 13, 2017, 04:09:18 pm »
Found this topic whilst searching for a solution to the same numbering issue on 1.4.6 - my solution is a little more precise and may help others:

TL,DR: Use Style Manager to manage your styles, avoid any manual styling of frames for page numbers.

Creating a book with front matter + content + back matter and differing numbering schemes - my front matter numbering was producing exclamation and question marks, Here's the setup:

Document:
SectionContentPage rangeNumberingMaster PageParagraph StyleConverted PDF Output
AFront Matterp1-p4No numbersFront MatterContent Footerleft aligned exclamation
BFront Matterp5-p10roman: v,vi,vii .. Front MatterContent Footercenter aligned - exclamation marks in out: '!,!I,!II, ...'
CNormalp5-p10numeric: 1,2,3 .. Normal Left & RightContent Footercenter aligned numbers

  • Numbering sections - one covering A & B starting at 5 and one for C.
  • Style: Content Footer - EB Garamond 12 Regular @ 10pt size, All Caps (I was using the same style for header & footer throughout).
Everything displayed fine in Scribus. It was only on export that the problem occurred.

I'd edited the style and switched to using EB Garamond 8 Regular @ 10pt size - because the floral decoration glyph was different between the two. At some stage I had manually edited the style on the footer frame in the front matter page - it was using the '12 Regular' style - overriding the paragraph character style. As soon as I re-applied the Content Footer style to the frame on the 'Front Matter' Master Page - the problem disappeared, A was blank, B was roman numerals. Manual editing of the frame style on the front matter causes the output to revert to the problem characters.
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Beginner Talk / Re: Initial document feedback
« Last post by ruperty on May 13, 2017, 03:40:32 pm »

I'm slightly confused, how do you denote a new paragraph without a carriage return?

* First set-up a character style for your body text as you want the text to look.
* Then set-up a paragraph style based on the character style while also setting how you want your paragraphs to look (indents, spacing, etc.).
* Then set-up another paragraph style based on the first paragraph style but also add the drop caps formatting.

Thanks, very useful, it worked well (apart from above query).
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Beginner Talk / Re: Initial document feedback
« Last post by GarryP on May 13, 2017, 02:25:05 pm »
* First set-up a character style for your body text as you want the text to look.
* Then set-up a paragraph style based on the character style while also setting how you want your paragraphs to look (indents, spacing, etc.).
* Then set-up another paragraph style based on the first paragraph style but also add the drop caps formatting.

Apply the first paragraph style (not drop caps) to the whole frame, then apply the second paragraph style (with drop caps) to just the first paragraph.

Once you have set-up your styles you can make changes very quickly by just changing the underlying character style or either paragraph style. (Always make changes to the "base" style first so that the change ripples up the chain.)

See the very simple attached example with a Body Text character style which is used by the Body Text paragraph style which in turn is used by the Body Text Drop Cap paragraph style. Any changes to the character style will automatically be applied to any text formatted using either paragraph style.
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Beginner Talk / Re: Initial document feedback
« Last post by ruperty on May 13, 2017, 01:57:38 pm »
It looks like you may have used the return to force new lines - if so I don't believe you need to do that.

Thanks, all, for the good suggestions, that I will work through. On this point, though, how do you set a new paragraph; so that it is indented and without drop caps (which I only want in the first paragraph)?
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Beginner Talk / Re: Initial document feedback
« Last post by GarryP on May 13, 2017, 10:30:19 am »
Just to refine something that CGood said above, you can use a "grid concept" to help you define your page layout but please don't use the GRID itself, use GUIDES instead. The GRID can be used to help with drawing shapes but GUIDES should be used for page layout.
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Beginner Talk / Re: Initial document feedback
« Last post by CGood on May 12, 2017, 06:23:54 pm »
One additional idea - perhaps to consider later - is the use of a grid concept to help with over all page organization.
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Beginner Talk / Re: Initial document feedback
« Last post by CGood on May 12, 2017, 06:17:50 pm »
GarryP posted while I wrote, so pardon some repetition.

A couple of ideas to look up and learn about. I'm too slow a typist to attempt any more than a few pointers here. Justification and hyphenation of text can add a sense of form and neatness.

Perhaps add a sans serif for headline for interest. Consider one possibility, a headline in small caps and a subhead in a gray, giving variation within a headline typeface.

Give the various pieces space.

Be wary of the color changes within the head. A good idea but to me it feels like it is not working here. The text below is crowded up against the bottom of the photographs.

Having parentheses hang into a new line is awkward.

Out of the scope of Scribus but consider reshooting the image, it is not helping the sense of design you are reaching for. Background tonal mergers and clutter impede the photograph.

It looks like you may have used the return to force new lines - if so I don't believe you need to do that.

See my quick example pdf.
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Beginner Talk / Re: Initial document feedback
« Last post by GarryP on May 12, 2017, 05:43:55 pm »
It's a good start Rupert.

To answer your questions:

* You can make the first letter of a paragraph bigger by using Drop Caps. You can only use these if you create a paragraph style (for long documents, styles are the way to go rather than direct formatting). Menu "Edit -> Styles" will get you the style tools. Then you can apply styles using the Style Settings part of the Text tab of the Properties Palette.

* Don't extend text boxes across pages, link them instead. Select the first frame, then menu "Item -> Link Text Frames" (there's an icon on the toolbar too) then select the second frame. Text will flow from the first to the second. You can link as many as you want but don't link too many frames together. Only create links between frames for individual articles/chapters.

* The message tells you that one of your images has a lower DPI than the minimum recommended DPI. You can change the minimum value via "File -> Document Setup / Preflight Verifier". Change the "Lowest allowed Resolution" to whatever you want. 300 is normal for print work and 72 is fine for most stuff that will be read on-screen-only. You can disable this feature altogether but it's not recommended. If you need the output DPI to be a certain value then you will have to get a higher-resolution image.

Some extra bits of advice:

* If the robot in the image is the main part of the image, don't put it near the crease (between pages). If people are reading it in a single-page PDF reader layout they won't see it properly, and if it's in a magazine you'll have a similar problem. Try a different layout.

* Don't put the text so close to the image. It's usually good to have a gap of at least the same height as a line of text.

* It might be better to have a larger gap between columns. They seems a little too close for me.

I would mention justifying the text but I think that's probably something for later on.

I hope some of that helps.
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