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Layout Issues / Re: Problems with tables as images
« Last post by GarryP on April 09, 2018, 05:42:14 pm »
I would be cautious using tabulators without some proper testing.

Just as a quick test, I created a small text file containing what I wanted in a table with a tab between the items.
Then I created a text frame and imported the text file.
Then I changed the tabulator settings.
Most of it worked but I couldn't get the first "column" to be anything other than left-justified.
Not a major problem, but then I re-imported the text and most of the tabulator settings had gone.
The "columns" were still there but the centre/right-justifications had been changed to left-justified and the tab stops had gone missing from the tabulator dialog altogether.

This was with 1.4.6. I don't know if 1.5.x has more solid functionality.
If 1.5.x does things better then I would be tempted to use the tabulator in that (as a.l.e suggests), but not with 1.4.6.

Just make sure it does what you want before using it "in the field".
Layout Issues / Re: Problems with tables as images
« Last post by a.l.e on April 09, 2018, 05:05:42 pm »
with a bit of creativity, you can also use tabulators for that...
Layout Issues / Re: Problems with tables as images
« Last post by Farland on April 09, 2018, 04:41:43 pm »
The tables I am trying to make are actually rather simple. I just have a LOT of them to make. 

One example would be something like the "Draconic Ancestry Table" on this page:

Or like the tables on this page:
Layout Issues / Re: Problems with tables as images
« Last post by GarryP on April 09, 2018, 03:58:51 pm »
"Bad" really depends on what you want.
If you want something very simple then it's quite usable, but as soon as you want any complexity you might start to have trouble.
Tables are just grouped cells with a little bit of extra functionality thrown in.

Can you give visual examples of some tables you want to create, with some notes on how things need to be formatted? Also, how many tables - of each kind - do you need to create?
It's always easier to give advice when you can see what you're advising on.

You might need to use a mix of native tables and imported ones.
Layout Issues / Re: Problems with tables as images
« Last post by Farland on April 09, 2018, 03:08:46 pm »
Alright, thanks for the advice.  It honestly seems like the best solution would be to build the tables right in Scribus. Is the table functionality really that bad?
Layout Issues / Re: Problems with tables as images
« Last post by GarryP on April 09, 2018, 03:00:45 pm »
You could put your tables on a separate layer and temporarily switch that layer off to try and get some document-browsing speed back but that's not an ideal solution even if it works, and it doesn't help with save/load times.

You could try splitting the document into smaller "sub-documents" but that's not ideal either.

Another option would be to use LaTeX in a render frame but I'm fairly sure that just creates bitmaps anyway.

If importing the tables as vectors makes the document too large then you'll probably have to go back to using bitmaps and not capping the resolution for the non-print version.

If your tables are black and white then you could try converting the bitmaps to 1-bit indexed mode (in GIMP, menu Image -> Mode -> Indexed / 1-bit). Export them as TIFs (with LZW compression) and the file sizes should drop to about 10% of the originals. GIMP or ImageMagick might be able to process multiple images in batch mode but remember to not overwrite the originals.

I haven't tried using 1-bit images in Scribus, so you will have to do some testing before using it in a real document.

I'm not sure what else to suggest.
MacOS / Re: OS X install of Sribus 1.5.3
« Last post by a.l.e on April 09, 2018, 09:57:14 am »
you can get there from the official downloads page

- click on the "take to me downloads" on the right side
- click on the link below "Mac OS X Mavericks or higher"
- click on "scribus-1.5.3.dmg"

et voilà!
(ok, it could be easier)

on top of it, in

you have the "nightly" builds...
MacOS / OS X install of Sribus 1.5.3
« Last post by remadepreacher on April 09, 2018, 06:35:21 am »
Is there still no version of 1.5 available for mac? I downloaded the latest 1.4 but have had a lot of trouble. It finally got to where I could do nothing with an old or new doc without it freezing. I eliminated all I could find of Scribus on the mac in anticipation for downloading 1.5.3 (or .4).  As it is supposed to operate on new principles, I had hoped this would solve my problems. But now I can find no such download.
Layout Issues / Re: Problems with tables as images
« Last post by Farland on April 09, 2018, 05:01:09 am »
Next update: I may have spoken too soon.  There was no problem working with the vector tables inside Scribus, but the exported PDF now seems unworkable.  It takes forever to open, it takes a long time to move from page to page, and it takes upwards of an hour to save. Is there anyway to save this? It turns out creating all tables as vector images may not have worked in the end.
PDF Generation / Re: Updated PDF Version Output?
« Last post by mnawij on April 07, 2018, 11:30:41 pm »
Yes, I am trying to use only FOSS software to see if it is possible for my company so I do not have to shell out for Adobe CC next year.  Acrobat v10 which I have does not always set the bleed/trim/cut boxes correctly when adjusting, maybe it gets it right 75% of the time.  I have pitstop professional pdf editor which works but it takes thrice as long to achieve the same results as just dropping the file into a DTP app and it will not work with image files unless I convert them to pdf first, so I am back to the same starting point.  It really is the only FOSS app that can do this, which in my opinion makes it the right app, though there could be another FOSS app out there if anyone would like to help me find it.


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