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I'm creating a magazine - 24 pages total, with a fair number of images. 

I'll be working along, inserting images, saving my file very regularly.  And then suddenly some images will be gone, and in the frame where they were is the filename instead of the image.  If I save the Scribus file to a new name and reopen the previously saved version, the images are gone there, too.  Since it gives me the filenames, they are easy to reload - and when I do that, they are already scaled and sized correctly, I don't need to "adjust image to frame." 

If I try to export to a pdf from the file with missing images, it tells me they are missing - so they are really not there, it's not as if I somehow made them invisible.  Not all images in the file disappear, just a few will disappear (different ones at different times, though).

What is going on here?

I also noticed that my .sla file is around 340K, with around 13 pages completed.  When I save it to .pdf, that file is 27 megs.

So does Scribus actually only save pointers to images, not integrating the image into the file itself?  That would explain why the file is so small.  But if that is the case, it would suggest that if I move or rename an underlying image file - or delete it - my Scribus document will no longer be able to find it.

Why would my images suddenly disappear when I wasn't even working on them?  Sometimes it is images from a previous page that I haven't touched in hours. 

I'm using Scribus 1.4.6 on OSX, and this is my first time using the software, so I have lots to learn.

Thanks for any enlightenment anyone can provide!



Joy
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Beginner Talk / Re: Trouble with "Get Text"
« Last post by RodneyLee on April 13, 2018, 04:52:31 pm »
Ok, I can work more than I could, loading is now do-able. But it turns out that when I try to change styles on certain parts of the text, I still have another #11 crash, both in 1.4.6 and 1.5.3. So evidently there are still problems with the styles or fonts brought over with the .odt.

I had that problem for a bit in 1.5.3 in linux, eventually my file stopped loading, I think tried 1.5.2 and then 1.5.4 which loaded up the file, I think delete all styles (and all other steeing that effect text,TAB ETC), save and reloaded into 1.5.3 Reset TABS and nothing has crashed since.

best guess its something is off with imported text or old code embedded in text, 1.5.3 has been super stable for me
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Layout Issues / Re: Problem with text frames
« Last post by GarryP on April 13, 2018, 11:21:57 am »
You're welcome.

Don't feel too bad about not knowing about the Export function.

The whole point of Scribus is that it creates PDFs, either for printing or on-screen viewing. That's what it was created for. So why that function is relegated to a sub-menu while the much-less-used - and proven to be fallible - Print feature is more prominent in the File menu is a mystery to me.

Removing the Print feature has been discussed more than once, in this forum and elsewhere. It has also been suggested that the "Export to PDF" is moved from the sub-menu into the main File menu and renamed as something like "Publish to PDF". That seems perfectly sensible to me.

The Print feature, as it currently stands:
* is confusing for new users;
* doesn't create PDFs properly;
* has been proven not to work reliably;
* doesn't really give the user anything that other features do much better;
* makes Scribus look bad, because of the above issues;
* is extra code that needs to be maintained, so more work for the developers.

...and yet it persists. A strange situation indeed.

Anyway, I'm glad you've managed to get sorted and you can start creating PDFs and finding out all the great things you can do with Scribus.
It really is a good piece of software, even if some of the design choices are a little strange.
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Beginner Talk / Re: Trouble with "Get Text"
« Last post by a.l.e on April 13, 2018, 10:41:15 am »
please google about mac and function / media keys.

if you have not switched the default behavior for the function keys, you will have to press fn + F3 to get the text properties.
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Beginner Talk / Re: Trouble with "Get Text"
« Last post by remadepreacher on April 13, 2018, 07:57:57 am »
Utnik, thanks for the persistence but on a mac, F3 only brings up an overview of everything on the desktop.
Anyone know the shortcut to bring up text options for a mac in 1.5.3?
(Note, I found it in a video that compares 1.4 and 1.5. It is available under Windows after you close the regular properties box and have the curser in the text box).
 
Also, I found a trick to turn to curser in 1.5.3, hit the "e" key. You may have to do this periodically.

Ok, I can work more than I could, loading is now do-able. But it turns out that when I try to change styles on certain parts of the text, I still have another #11 crash, both in 1.4.6 and 1.5.3. So evidently there are still problems with the styles or fonts brought over with the .odt.
 
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Beginner Talk / Re: Trouble with "Get Text"
« Last post by utnik on April 13, 2018, 05:24:21 am »
hi remadepreacher

…I still do not see text in the options in properties in 1.5.3 after clicking or highlighting on the text.

i may tell you the same thing once more: in scribus 1.5.x the text properties are collected in a separate window!!! – you open it by pressing the 'f3' key! – there's no help if you don't read it!

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I should explain what all I had to go through to get it. I began with MS Word and had huge amount of corruption and weird behavior. Eventually, I dumped Word. To purify the text, I took a screen shot of each page and used the ocr in Adobe Acrobat to get the text. Some words did not look right, so I retyped them either ahead or behind in the middle of another word and cut the offender. Then I put this text in an online compare document program, Diffnow.com. and compared the text with the original. I corrected the new text there and copy and pasted into Text Edit.
I think that some new corruption may remain in the text from this process as some pretty ordinary words are not being recognized by spell check. Now that the program is working all right with it, should I trust it? Or will it create trouble down the road? I tried attaching a sample .odt but this program will not accept that so converted to .doc

i don't know why you're doing all this weird stuff. but i can load your text in text frames in scribus 1.4.6 and 1.5.3 either with 'get text'  (well, i saved the file in .odt format before…) or by pasting it into the 'story editor' (which i almost never use in my real work…)
everything works as expected – the text is editable direct in the text frame.

utnik
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Text and Typography / Re: Properties > text > styles
« Last post by catteau on April 13, 2018, 02:55:40 am »
GarryP and utnik, T=thanks for your comments.  Now I see how to attach the screenshot - and somehow I also found where the menus are for both styles and colors in the properties window!  Problems solved!
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Beginner Talk / Re: Trouble with "Get Text"
« Last post by remadepreacher on April 13, 2018, 02:52:28 am »
Ok, I just checked the font of the doc from Text Edit I was imputing. Some of it was a font called menlo — which is strange because Helvetica new is default in Text Edit. I remember Scribus asking if it was ok to substitute for Helvitica Neu. I now changed the to Georgia (my choice for most of the chapters). I still had to paste into Story Editor. I can double click on the text and the cursor work now (btw, I was double clicking before). I can erase that, double click and type new text in. I tried downloading a chapter in get text, it works perfectly, as well. I can even drag and drop in. I went to new document from template in 1.4.6. I couldn't double click on a new text box in it until I pasted the Georgia text into Story Editor again. I'm attaching a blank doc from that Template.
I still don't understand how this behavior migrated over to 1.5.3 when I created a new document at the beginning. I just did this again and it is fine.

Main problem left — I still do not see text in the options in properties in 1.5.3 after clicking or highlighting on the text.

This is a side issue but I'm still a bit concerned about the text. I should explain what all I had to go through to get it. I began with MS Word and had huge amount of corruption and weird behavior. Eventually, I dumped Word. To purify the text, I took a screen shot of each page and used the ocr in Adobe Acrobat to get the text. Some words did not look right, so I retyped them either ahead or behind in the middle of another word and cut the offender. Then I put this text in an online compare document program, Diffnow.com. and compared the text with the original. I corrected the new text there and copy and pasted into Text Edit.
I think that some new corruption may remain in the text from this process as some pretty ordinary words are not being recognized by spell check. Now that the program is working all right with it, should I trust it? Or will it create trouble down the road? I tried attaching a sample .odt but this program will not accept that so converted to .doc


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Beginner Talk / Re: Trouble with "Get Text"
« Last post by RodneyLee on April 12, 2018, 10:51:02 pm »
I find I have to switch to the pointer/select tool then double click on the text box to edit in the box
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Beginner Talk / Re: Trouble with "Get Text"
« Last post by utnik on April 12, 2018, 06:57:03 pm »
hi remadepreacher
This is the first I've heard creating automatic text boxes may not be the best.

well, i use them with almost every text heavy project. if you're careful, it's a strong and fast way to deal with text.
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I gather text does not come up in properties in 1.5.3 until you click on the text.

see my post above!
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…today I pasted plain text in 1.5.3 using Story Editor, it also can not be effected from the text box.

could you upload a sample file?

utnik
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