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PDF Generation / Re: problems with faded CMYK color
« Last post by Nermander on July 19, 2017, 05:33:36 pm »
You cannot calibrate your screen with software only. You need a device that measures the color shown on the screen.

The calibration will generate a color profile for your monitor, and there are many free softwares that can do this. But all of them need a "spider" to perform the measurement.

PDF Generation / Re: problems with faded CMYK color
« Last post by flomman on July 19, 2017, 03:54:56 pm »
Thanks mnawij for the benefit of your knowledge and experience!  I wrote to the guy I deal with at my printer and this is the reply I got:

I think what you are looking for will be the 'US Web Coated (SWOP 2)' setting we use to save our pdf files.

When going to actual print these are then re-run through a print software for separation and we don't have an actual name or settings for it.

If you produce pdf files to the US Web Coated profile it should run thereafter to print as our own pdf files do.

So you think I need to calibrate my screen?  I've never had to do it before, but I guess I should give anything a try!  I'll try and find some software to do that.  If you have any other thoughts I'd really appreciate it! 
Text and Typography / Re: Clipping and skewing text
« Last post by GarryP on July 19, 2017, 02:42:48 pm »
For the first of your questions, I'm not sure what you want to do. I don't understand why you would want some of the letters to go missing. If you don't want the letters then it's usual to just not add them in the first place. I know you said it was a peculiar case but is there an example you could supply that would show people what you want? Even a simple scanned hand-drawn picture might help.

The clipping path of an image is only really used to control how text flows around that image. It's like a contour line but it's part of the image file and not a Scribus thing. The 'clipping' refers to the image rather than the text.

On your second question, you can skew the frame - by either using the Node Editor or via menu "Item -> Transform" - but the text will not be skewed along with the frame. To skew text you will have to convert it to outlines and then skew the resulting shapes. Unfortunately you won't be able to edit the text after converting to outlines so keep a backup of the original text if you need to try different things.

If you are experimenting then it might be good to put that specific piece of text into Inkscape first and then export different manipulated versions into Scribus until you get what you want but Scribus has plenty of vector tools so that's not usually necessary. Use whichever workflow is best for you.
Beginner Talk / Re: Flip pages horizontally
« Last post by m s narayanan on July 19, 2017, 01:23:18 pm »
Dear sir
The idea is to make reading the newsletter easy by selecting wanted page by a mere click.
It may be funny to turn around pages.
I tried converting the PDF to FTD or something like that by using flipdeveloper.  But the setback is that if I send this file to others they may not be open it unless they have installed that application.

M S Narayanan
Text and Typography / Clipping and skewing text
« Last post by eudoxos on July 19, 2017, 12:45:31 pm »
Hi there, in a peculiar case I would like to typeset text frame as usual, and only clip the result afterwards (the clipping should cut some letters, so not enough to make text shorter). As I understand, there is clipping path (different from contour line, which is used for text flow) only available with image frames, right? Another question is whether it is possible to skew text frame (not just rotate). In both cases I'd like the text to be editable. Otherwise I'd convert to paths and do it in inkscape. Thanks, cheers! vaclav
Beginner Talk / Re: Cross-References?
« Last post by GarryP on July 19, 2017, 11:59:32 am »
Just to add to what a.l.e said above, I briefly looked at the 'Marks' functionality in Scribus 1.5.0 - a good while ago, and I can't remember why - and it seemed to work fairly well back then. A bit "clunky" in the implementation but usable as long as you figured out how it worked. (From what I remember, it also allowed you to do more complex things but I can't remember any details.) I have no idea if any further work as been made on that functionality so I can't say that it will be entirely stable. As a.l.e says, it has not been thoroughly tested.

With this in mind I would recommend using 1.4.6 to get the document up to a point where it is finished except from the references and then editing a copy of the 1.4.6 file in 1.5.3 to finish it off. Edit a copy just in case you need to go back to 1.4.6 for whatever reason since 1.4.6 cannot read 1.5.x files. If you use place-holders for the references - e.g. ##, $$, @@, etc. - you can make it more likely that your text layout will not be changed too much by putting the references in. You will need to check for text overflows but the pre-flight viewer can help with this.

I don't think there will be any tutorials for this yet. You never know though, it might be part of a larger tutorial/guide.

You can have 1.4.6 and 1.5.3 installed on your machine at the same time - this is done differently on different OSes - so you can try it on a non-critical test document and see what you think.

Once you've mastered the 'Marks' functionality, maybe you could be the person to write the tutorial.
Layout Issues / Re: Cannot find First Line Offset
« Last post by a.l.e on July 19, 2017, 09:29:15 am »
in the style manager?

in the properties palette when you highlight a selection?

why do you want it at a different place than the properties palette (F2)?

Beginner Talk / Re: Cross-References?
« Last post by a.l.e on July 19, 2017, 09:28:21 am »
it's in scribus 1.5.3 as a new feature.
it's still not thoroughly tested but it seems to work:

- edit > marks
- insert > marks > ...

use it at your own risk...

Beginner Talk / Re: Flip pages horizontally
« Last post by mnawij on July 19, 2017, 07:31:19 am »
Hi M S Narayanan, could you explain in more detail of what you are trying to achieve by flipping the pages horizontally?


PDF Generation / Re: problems with faded CMYK color
« Last post by mnawij on July 19, 2017, 07:20:34 am »
Hey flomman, OK let us try taking this from the top.  My background first, I have operated my own print shop since 1998 and I do 75% of the design work that I print.  I produce over 100 printed products every month spot color --> full color --> Spot UV & foiling, etc... you get the picture.  First, if your monitor is not color calibrated, color calibration is almost impossible to achieve in the finished printed product.  Second, if your printer does not ask for or require a color profile then 90% of the time they toss it out in preflight (my experience, others may have different points of view).  Third, one reason you only need a color profile if your printer does not require it, is if you are trying to calibrate to multiple printers/presses say if your company is printing its brochure in different shops in multiple locales and you would like them to be as close to exact as possible.  I use profiles: fogra 39, 51 and 52 (if I am remembering correctly), and GRACoL2006.

Question? Are you printing your calendar on a web press? If not then you are definitely using the wrong profile due to the max ink coverage for web coated SWOP is 300% whereas the other sheetfed profiles range to 340-350%, this could account for the lighter color with less ink density being used for that profile when converted.  It is just a guess though... if I think of something else I will post it, but I have printed hundreds of files without color profiling i.e. MS Office files converted to PDF... and have not had many problems, there were a few but I would say 95%+ printed fine without a hitch.  I hope this might help you.

The pdf web/screen prints fine due to it being RGB color space, which is a wider color gamut and 99% of said desktop printers understand RGB conversion very well for desktop printing.  So if that is the case, it is the color profile messing things up.  What happens when you create a pdf with color profiles turned off?

Off topic: Adobe products do not share color profiles between them unless set up in Adobe Bridge (not sure if this is still true in version Creative Suite CC as I have not upgraded yet) FYI... In my ID settings I do not save the profile but keep the CMYK values as my option.


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