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Layout Issues / Re: Measurements Entry issues...
« Last post by utnik on September 23, 2017, 11:56:52 pm »
hi portreve

this is not true! – or i still don't get the point…

i don't change anything in my document settings. i just enter '0.25 in' while the units are set to 'mm' and scribus interprets it correctly as '6.35 mm' (or a quarter of an inch…)

utnik
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Layout Issues / Re: Measurements Entry issues...
« Last post by Portreve on September 23, 2017, 11:28:42 pm »
hi portreve

my standard setting is:
  • pt for text and the baseline grid
  • mm for all other ojects
but i can always enter numeric values like '3.4 in' or '40 pt' and scribus converts them into mm (or whatever is set as your standard unit…)

maybe i don't understand your problem…

utnik

My problem is that you can't directly enter all possible measurements in any given measurement system. You have to keep changing the measurement system for the document into one of the ones which will correctly allow you to get the physical dimension (or other such measurement-related parameter) that you want. Sometimes, that's mm. Sometimes, it's points. Sometimes, it is decimalized inches. It's really aggravating.
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Layout Issues / Re: Measurements Entry issues...
« Last post by utnik on September 23, 2017, 10:39:53 pm »
hi portreve

my standard setting is:
  • pt for text and the baseline grid
  • mm for all other ojects
but i can always enter numeric values like '3.4 in' or '40 pt' and scribus converts them into mm (or whatever is set as your standard unit…)

maybe i don't understand your problem…

utnik
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Layout Issues / Measurements Entry issues...
« Last post by Portreve on September 23, 2017, 08:02:24 pm »
Hello fellow Scribus folk and developers!

I have been actively using Scribus on a regular basis since roughly 1.2.1 or so, and right now I have both 1.4.6 and 1.5.3 installed. The issue has been constant for as long as I've been either tinkering with or using Scribus, and is still expressed in 1.5.3.

Here's the issue: When you want to manipulate measurements in the Properties pallet, your ability to be specific about measurements depends on which unit system you have active at that point. This is frustrating because in conventional DTP software (and here I'm thinking PageMaker, InDesign, and QuarkXPress) you can enter fractional units of equal values no matter which measurement standard you're using.

For example, let's say for technical reasons I need to make a box 3 picas, 3 and one-half points wide. If I type in 3p3.5, it will reject it and turn the box into a width of 0p8.02. If, on the other hand, I have measurement units set to inches, I can absolutely enter a decimalized inch value, at which point if I switch back to picas, the exact measurement I wanted will be displayed.

This sort of issue with measurement values appears to be global. That is, it's not just about X by Y sizes of graphical objects, but will also happen with weight (that is, thickness) of rules (where "rule" in this context means lines and box borders).

Also, and this is sort of tangentally related, when I have an object selected (say, for example, a line or a box) and I want to change the border thickness, the amount by which the border thickness changes depends on which measurement system I'm using. If I'm using points or picas, then the border will change in values of points. But, if I'm in inches, it goes from Hairline directly to 1 inch. And, once again, one has to play around with measurement settings in the document just to make changes to objects.

Because this behavior occurs with clean installations of any version of Scribus thus far used, and to the extent that Scribus is "normal non-coder end user modifiable" I have not in any way made changes to code, or scripts, etc., this clearly must be the software's default behavior, as opposed to something I've somehow unwittingly inflicted upon myself.

So, my question to the community and/or developers is: is there anything I can do to better handle this sort of behavior, or is this something to be addressed further down the development road?

BTW, I absolutely love the UI changes I've so far seen between 1.4.x and 1.5.x. Scribus' dev team has clearly been doing a lot of work, and I just wanted to say how much I appreciate their efforts.

I also have issues with text settings, but that's something for a different post probably.

Portreve

P.S.: This is my first post here.

P.P.S.: Note to Mods... please feel free to move this topic if I've posted it in the wrong area.
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Raster and Vector Graphics / Re: Reduced DPI issues
« Last post by mnawij on September 23, 2017, 07:50:02 pm »
I have never seen that with tif files, I know that digital jpg files from cameras and phones are always 72dpi at a large dimension 40" x 32" or such depending on the megapixels of the device.  Unless opened first and resized to the right dpi/resolution and size in a photo editor, all that happens is the photo is scaled down at 72dpi inside of indesign, illustrator, etc... can someone confirm that this happens in scribus, maybe I can if I get a free minute???  I am not sure if this is what is happening or not.  Uploading one of the tif files for me to try and recreate your problem would be the next step if you are amenable to that.

mnawij
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Scribus forums / Re: Scribus Webpage
« Last post by tim_occ on September 23, 2017, 04:30:35 pm »
@Nermander,

I had already years of knowledge in Indesign and DPT workflows before I'm started to using Scribus. That is not the point. :P

In case of Scribus you need your time to figure out where to start (not the software itself). At first I'm trying to help myself and make researches. But often you loose time, and if you are just searching for informations or a new tool which you want to use and you have to figure out where all of these important infos are, it is a no-go in my opinion.

Here some examples:
1. On webpage are no hints about the features of Scribus. As well in the wiki it is hard to find
2. On webpage (contact and support): there is nothing about support
3. On webpage there is no link to the forum (you have to google for it or you have to go to the wiki)
4. In my understanding wiki != manual, so there is no hint about the documentation of the features on webpage
5. Wiki homepage looks like the main resource because of all the cross-links in the header (Scribus Home, Download, Help, Manual, Forums, Bugs, Blog, About) -> At this moment I realized that I should use the wiki instead of finding something on the webpage
6. "Contribute" page on web page is a mess, it explains what you can do, but not how to or you have to search for it (https://www.scribus.net/contribute/)
7. Contribute section in Wiki is well invisible: You have to got to the menu on left side (Development: https://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Category:Development) and have to find the right topics in the overview.
8. Navigation through the wiki is a mess: In case of english language it is kind of "OK", but try to start on a localized home page, in this case you can't use the menu on left side
9. On webpage click on download -> Windows, why there are mac DMG's and other packages, are the packages for windows too?

Over all, you have so many dead ends in navigation - that is frustrating and is taking your life time.

That is why we have this thread now. :D

In case of resources/tutorials I agree, there a much lesser than e.g. for Blender. But we have the possibility to built a good infrastructure that people are motivated to create new tutorials.

regards,
Martin

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Beginner Talk / Page templating
« Last post by Antariz on September 23, 2017, 03:36:02 pm »
I've been poking around in Scribus with the intention of creating a short booklet. After some playing around with master pages, these look to be static background layers which can be applied to pages in the file, but have no actual bearing over the style of the pages they're on.

What I'm looking for is a way to define the style of a page for consistency. e.g. I would define a '2 columns with heading' template which I can apply to a set of pages, then with each of those pages insert the appropriate heading and body text. This would enable me to make layout changes after creating all the pages, so if I decide the columns are too close together, or the font needs to change, I can simply update the template and all the pages will reflect the new changes.

There looks to be a way to define font styles at least, but I'm yet to find a way to define a 'page style'.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers,
Antariz
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Scribus forums / Re: Scribus Webpage
« Last post by GarryP on September 23, 2017, 11:18:24 am »
Not all Scribus installations come with the built-in help manual. As far as I remember, it's something to do with licensing on Linux. I've just checked this on Mint Cinnamon 18.1 (Scribus 1.4.6) and going into the Manual gets you the attached result.

The built-in manual is a very useful resource and normally explains things well but if it's not available to everyone then lots of people will be missing out on some very important basic information.

I'm also curious as to what you think the Scribus community is here to do. Surely the people on the forum can teach people whatever they want to teach? If Person A wants to know something and Person B wants to teach them then what's the problem with that?

Personally I generally don't bother answering questions from people who have clearly not even bothered to even go through the basics of the tutorial but that's just me. That doesn't stop someone else from helping if they want to.

Page layout, and DTP more generally, is something that most people have not had to do before they try Scribus and it can be a bit scary, when you start to look at it, how much stuff you have to learn. Baseline grids, optical margins, font embedding, DPI, ligatures, the list goes on. Most of the time when you're learning you don't even know what the things are called so you can't search for them - in the manual or elsewhere. If you can't search for something then you need help and that's where the forum can come in.

If no-one wants to answer a question then that's unfortunate for the user who needs help but no-one is forcing people to answer and the user that needs help should acknowledge this. Free help on DTP issues is not a basic human right, but people can always ask.

To slide the argument sideways a little, GIMP is often used for photo retouching. Should people in the GIMP forums not teach people about use of colour, or brush techniques, or lighting, or layering, or any of the other things that someone needs to know because they are "too basic"? That doesn't sound right to me.

Beginners, by definition, don't know how to do things. It's beginners that need the help. Everything that you or I know is something that we had to learn. No-one is born with an innate knowledge of DTP any more than we are born knowing that fire can be dangerous. Everyone has to start from the beginning with everything. If people can't be bothered to put in a tiny amount of effort to learn some of the basics for themselves then just ignore them, but people should not be ignored just because they are a beginner.

The Scribus community has no "task" or responsibility to anyone. The individuals in the community can answer whatever questions they want to and can also ignore any questions they don't want to answer. Neither the community nor the individual people in it have any obligation to do anything. If you personally don't want to answer a question then just ignore it and move onto something else.

If the Scribus community isn't here to teach DTP to people who use Scribus - a DTP application - then what's it for?
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Raster and Vector Graphics / Re: Reduced DPI issues
« Last post by Nermander on September 23, 2017, 09:08:52 am »
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Scribus forums / Re: Scribus Webpage
« Last post by Nermander on September 23, 2017, 09:06:54 am »
As I'm was a Scribus beginner it was really hard for me to get an orientation about all the stuff (documentation, tutorials, resources, etc).

What resources did you need other than then built in help?

I am asking because in my experience, most users who do not understand how to use Scribus have never before used a page layout program. I do not think it is the task of the Scribus community to teach people DTP.

If you compare Scribus to for example GIMP, Inkscape or Open/Libre Office, do your really think it is harder to find the resources for Scribus than those other programs? I beg to differ, becuase those other programs are more widespread which means there are even more resources spread out all over the web (and even books).
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