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Title: Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page
Post by: jlpoole on June 26, 2012, 08:24:50 AM
I am having a problem with getting page numbers and running heads and footers to appear over images on pages.

I have five layers in my document:

With "A-background" being at the bottom and "D topmost" being at the top.

In a Master Page "SubsequentPageLeft" and "SubsequentPageRight", I create a Page Number box and some headers and footers and place them within the topmost layer D as I want the page number and the header to always appears.

On page 29 within the document which has as a layout "SubsequentPageRight" assigned to it, I import an image into layer B; actually page 28 and 29 each have their own image. The image is a black & white TIFF 256 grayscale with a white background and black/grey symbols (music).  The image is about 80% of the page size and has to be placed in a particular location.  Often the image overlaps the area where the page number and header/footer are.

What happens on page 29 is the image appears to mask the page number, "29", and header/footers when despite the fact that it is on the lower layer B.  It's as if the "D topmost" Layer in the Master Page is below the "B - image" layer in the document.  Page 28 properly displays only because the imported image does not overlap the areas where the page number and footers are.

Is this a design bug, or is there some switch I'm missing.

What should happen is that the page number and header/footers should appear over the image and always display.
I've attached an example.  Notice at red circle #1 on page 28, the page number comes through, but at red circle #2 on page 29, the image is masking the page number.  The page number is on a master page on the top most layer.  The same problem is demonstrated between #3 (cut off) vs. #4 displaying.

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Title: Re: Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page
Post by: jlpoole on June 26, 2012, 08:44:14 AM
I should note, that when I export the problem page 29 using the PDF icon within Scribus, the layering is just as it appears within Scribus - the imported image cuts off the page number and footer.  I was hoping maybe something might be different on export that causes the correct layering.
Title: Re: Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page
Post by: Nermander on June 27, 2012, 08:54:39 AM
As far as I understand it layers on a Master Page are always "behind" layers on regular pages. That is the current design of Scribus, Master Pages are "bakground", but I think there are requests to change it.
Title: Re: Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page
Post by: jlpoole on June 27, 2012, 04:41:58 PM
Thank you.

What form are the requests in?  Bug Enhancements?  Postings to the dev mailing list?  If in the Bug database, I'll identify them here for posterity.
Title: Re: Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page
Post by: Nermander on June 27, 2012, 07:09:02 PM
I know it has been discussed on the mailing list, but I'm not sure if a feature request has been written.
Title: Re: Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page
Post by: jlpoole on June 27, 2012, 07:36:10 PM
As far as I know, there is no search facility for the mailing list other than looking at each month's worth of posting offered through the archive url at http://lists.scribus.net/pipermail/scribus-dev/.  Is this correct?

I've been looking into building and assembling a one-stop search page, but I thought I'd check with you before I do so since you seem experienced and have credentials suggesting a good familiarity with the development program.
Title: Re: Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page
Post by: Nermander on June 27, 2012, 08:06:24 PM
Sorry, I was unclear, I didn't mean the dev list but the users list.
Title: Re: Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page
Post by: jlpoole on June 28, 2012, 03:00:18 AM
I tried a test using the high watermark of the development trunk (Linux), SVN 1.5, and it appears that layers from the master do interact with the page, so what I was trying to accomplish appears to work in this latest version.
Title: Re: Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page
Post by: a.l.e on June 29, 2012, 04:47:34 PM
i can confirm that it is certainly already implemented!

but it may only be in 1.5svn.

no need for a feature request... (and it won't be backported to 1.4, because it's not trivial to do so, in this case)

ciao
a.l.e