Author Topic: Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page  (Read 3413 times)

jlpoole

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Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page
« on: June 26, 2012, 09:24:50 am »
I am having a problem with getting page numbers and running heads and footers to appear over images on pages.

I have five layers in my document:
  • D topmost
  • C
  • B - images
  • A - background

With "A-background" being at the bottom and "D topmost" being at the top.

In a Master Page "SubsequentPageLeft" and "SubsequentPageRight", I create a Page Number box and some headers and footers and place them within the topmost layer D as I want the page number and the header to always appears.

On page 29 within the document which has as a layout "SubsequentPageRight" assigned to it, I import an image into layer B; actually page 28 and 29 each have their own image. The image is a black & white TIFF 256 grayscale with a white background and black/grey symbols (music).  The image is about 80% of the page size and has to be placed in a particular location.  Often the image overlaps the area where the page number and header/footer are.

What happens on page 29 is the image appears to mask the page number, "29", and header/footers when despite the fact that it is on the lower layer B.  It's as if the "D topmost" Layer in the Master Page is below the "B - image" layer in the document.  Page 28 properly displays only because the imported image does not overlap the areas where the page number and footers are.

Is this a design bug, or is there some switch I'm missing.

What should happen is that the page number and header/footers should appear over the image and always display.
I've attached an example.  Notice at red circle #1 on page 28, the page number comes through, but at red circle #2 on page 29, the image is masking the page number.  The page number is on a master page on the top most layer.  The same problem is demonstrated between #3 (cut off) vs. #4 displaying.
John L. Poole

work: Principal Software Engineer, Oracle Corporation
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Re: Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2012, 09:44:14 am »
I should note, that when I export the problem page 29 using the PDF icon within Scribus, the layering is just as it appears within Scribus - the imported image cuts off the page number and footer.  I was hoping maybe something might be different on export that causes the correct layering.
John L. Poole

work: Principal Software Engineer, Oracle Corporation
play: Editions Poole - publisher of classical ensemble piano music (using InDesign & scripts thereunder)

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Re: Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2012, 09:54:39 am »
As far as I understand it layers on a Master Page are always "behind" layers on regular pages. That is the current design of Scribus, Master Pages are "bakground", but I think there are requests to change it.

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Re: Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2012, 05:41:58 pm »
Thank you.

What form are the requests in?  Bug Enhancements?  Postings to the dev mailing list?  If in the Bug database, I'll identify them here for posterity.
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Re: Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2012, 08:09:02 pm »
I know it has been discussed on the mailing list, but I'm not sure if a feature request has been written.

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Re: Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2012, 08:36:10 pm »
As far as I know, there is no search facility for the mailing list other than looking at each month's worth of posting offered through the archive url at http://lists.scribus.net/pipermail/scribus-dev/.  Is this correct?

I've been looking into building and assembling a one-stop search page, but I thought I'd check with you before I do so since you seem experienced and have credentials suggesting a good familiarity with the development program.
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Re: Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2012, 09:06:24 pm »
Sorry, I was unclear, I didn't mean the dev list but the users list.

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Re: Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2012, 04:00:18 am »
I tried a test using the high watermark of the development trunk (Linux), SVN 1.5, and it appears that layers from the master do interact with the page, so what I was trying to accomplish appears to work in this latest version.
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Re: Layers: Master Page vis-a-vis Page
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2012, 05:47:34 pm »
i can confirm that it is certainly already implemented!

but it may only be in 1.5svn.

no need for a feature request... (and it won't be backported to 1.4, because it's not trivial to do so, in this case)

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