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Moon Dog

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Reader Spreads and Printer Spreads
« on: May 19, 2018, 04:44:56 am »
How do invoke reader spreads and printer spreads? My goal is to create a document with 4 pages on a single, 11" x17" sheet of paper that when folded in the middle will yield in an 8.5" x 11 document with 4 pages of content. I searched the wiki and the forum, but didn't find these terms.

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Jerry

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Re: Reader Spreads and Printer Spreads
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2018, 06:16:12 am »
http://www.myprintsouth.com/blog.html/article/2018/05/01/reader-spreads-vs-printer-spreads

https://www.formaxprinting.com/blog/2016/11/booklet-layout-how-to-arrange-the-pages-of-a-saddle-stitched-booklet/

See if this helps.  As far as I understand, Scribus only sets up documents in reader spreads or individual pages.  You need imposition software to create printer spreads unless you set it up manually in Scribus and only having four pages would be easy to do.  First 11x17 would be page four on the left and page one on the right, Second 11x17 would be page two on the left and page three would be on the right.

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Re: Reader Spreads and Printer Spreads
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2018, 02:54:55 pm »
you can create Printer spreads manually, I did a 44 page booklet that way, pretty easy really, you might just take you paper fold it as needed then re-create in Scribus

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Re: Reader Spreads and Printer Spreads
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2018, 03:43:47 pm »
you can create Printer spreads manually, I did a 44 page booklet that way, pretty easy really, you might just take you paper fold it as needed then re-create in Scribus

Hmmm... I am having difficulty visualizing that. I'm probably just dense...  ???

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Re: Reader Spreads and Printer Spreads
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2018, 03:47:02 pm »
http://www.myprintsouth.com/blog.html/article/2018/05/01/reader-spreads-vs-printer-spreads

https://www.formaxprinting.com/blog/2016/11/booklet-layout-how-to-arrange-the-pages-of-a-saddle-stitched-booklet/

See if this helps.  As far as I understand, Scribus only sets up documents in reader spreads or individual pages.  You need imposition software to create printer spreads unless you set it up manually in Scribus and only having four pages would be easy to do.  First 11x17 would be page four on the left and page one on the right, Second 11x17 would be page two on the left and page three would be on the right.

mnawij

I see. I just assumed that Scribus would work similarly to inDesign and handle both at the click of a mouse...  I should've also mentioned in my original post that this is to be folded in the same way as a calendar.

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Re: Reader Spreads and Printer Spreads
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2018, 03:53:48 pm »
i would do the imposition stuff (rearranging pages for printer spreads) with a .pdf manipulating tool like 'jpdfTweak' – works on linux, macOS and windows.

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Re: Reader Spreads and Printer Spreads
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2018, 10:34:22 pm »
Yes, I do like that feature in InDesign for viewing the different spread layouts.  I can list out the imposed page layout numbers for printer spreads if you would like, all I need is the number of pages total and it needs to be divisible by 4 or you will end up with blank pages.  Here is an example of a 16 page imposed layout to help you visualize:

16  |  01
02  |  15
14  |  03
04  |  13
12  |  05
06  |  11
10  |  07
08  |  09

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Re: Reader Spreads and Printer Spreads
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2018, 10:53:03 am »
I searched the wiki and the forum, but didn't find these terms.

You should have searched for "imposition", because that is the correct term for arranging pages onto a sheet.

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Re: Reader Spreads and Printer Spreads
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2018, 02:32:14 pm »
I have been doing manual "printer spreads" for years (early 90's Amiga DTP), two years ago I sent in a project and the printer printed in "reader spread" and I didn't notice it on the proof, that really sucked.
I had never known the term Imposition or that software could do it for you

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Re: Reader Spreads and Printer Spreads
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2018, 06:41:17 am »
I searched the wiki and the forum, but didn't find these terms.

You should have searched for "imposition", because that is the correct term for arranging pages onto a sheet.

Thanks Nermander.
     I also searched online for a terminology resource, but didn't find anything that seemed very detailed. Any suggestions for that?
Jerry

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Re: Reader Spreads and Printer Spreads
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2018, 09:39:22 pm »
I think the wiki has a page with resources, I learned much terminology from books at the library (and books bought at sales).

Googling "graphic design terminology" gave me this page, which contains the term "imposition".
http://www.ucreative.com/resources/design-terms/

On prepressure.com I know I've read a lot of good information, theres a dictionary there too.
https://www.prepressure.com/printing-dictionary/a

Prepressure.com even has a full page about impositioning.
https://www.prepressure.com/prepress/imposition

 

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